Live Action Mafia

Yesterday, Steven was killed and Jayson got lynched by a plurality. Discuss.

Hilary, why did Steven vote for himself in the beginning? It doesn't make sense for the mafia to intimidate him to do so. Was he testing something?

steven came to talk to me and jy last night b4 he was killed (that's when we made the appologetic posts). we asked him the same question.

he basically said he has a lot of pressure, pressure from people cuz he is not as active as last game, and that he wants to step down (something like that). when we asked him y he voted for himself, he asked us to guess. jy did ask him if he's hinting he's conscripted, but he said no. i asked if it's cuz he doesn't want townspeople to all follow his vote this time, and have them vote themselves, he says not really, but could be part of the reason. jy asked if he did this so ppl can private message him to ask him, he says that's part of the reason too. and some other thigns > < we like suggested 4 or 5 reasons and he was like "that's part of it too" lol so yeah..

Reminder: Now that Steven Mo is dead he should not talk about the game or give comments or advice.

yeah that was b4 steven mo was killed

@ Alex: I did NOT and will not talk to anybody after I was killed 2am in Day 2. All the conversations that JJ described happened in Day 1.

^ sorry: error above --> I meant all the conversations above happened between 12:01am and 1am in Day 2 above.

I understand. Just making sure.

Hm. The only people I've seen today are Spenser and Yi, in the usual places that they are. How come everyone disappeared today?

There is also the case of Daniel's mysterious message in the voting. It could go both ways...

I would want to know why someone voted for me, and why people voted for Jason. I have not heard any kind of discussion related to that.

I decided not to vote today. I would like the investigator/s to check whether Vivian is Mafia. Her room is very close to the place Steven was killed.

For Saturday:
I'll be in my room 565 up until 11-12 and after that I'm going to Hayden/Student Center.

From yesterday:


Why would vigilante kill steve mo on day 2 lol..

As for my alibi: I was at NYC when Steven Mo was killed. Yi, can you tell everyone Steve Drapcho's whereabouts when Steven Mo was killed? Well.. I am not the mafia..

I think EVERYONE from next house, especially 5E/5W should post an alibi..

Investigator, please investigate whether Vivian/David Chen killed Steven Mo..


If anyone is confused by what I just said, feel free to post a message on this forum AS WELL AS pming me a notification. I have nothing to hide..
I am not the mafia

As far as my mysterious message, I really needn't have written it, but I did have a reason, and it will be explained tomorrow. I am in a series of communications that will not be finished tonight, since the others involved are sleeping.

Now it has been 24 hours since my death; guess what?

I DID NOT raise up from death; I'm now eternally staying with my beloved God in heaven

I will also say this: if you are an inspector do not for any reason give your identity to anybody in the next 18 hours, unless I give the go-ahead earlier.

Sorry, one more thing, if you are an inspector, do not use your inspection until later in the day on day 3. We (the people I am communicating with and me) will need your help!

You know what, scratch that. The more I look at my posts, the more I can see ways in which I look like mafia. So I'll be direct:

Skates is mafia; one of the inspectors told another player to tell me that he/she made this investigation. I received this message at 11:57 while I was alone with Skates in TFL. Needless to say I rather panicked, because I realized that he could kill me in just three minutes. In retrospect I know that the best thing to do would have been to remain calm as if I hadn't learned anything and pm a couple people this information in case I was killed at midnight, but I didn't think of that in the moment of adreniline. I don't mind Skates learning that he was positively investigated, because I expect that he already suspected this, given the pathetic excuses I gave to get away from him before midnight.

Anyway, I don't blame you if you don't believe me yet. I bungled the aftermath pretty badly with a series of posts each of which may have looked more incriminating than the last. That's irrelevant, though, because it will be very simple to prove that I am telling the truth. Whoever is the other investigator out there (i.e. the one who has not already investigated him,) investigate Skates for the killing of Steven Mo. Alex will give you an answer of yes, confirming my accusation. Post this on the forum through a surrogate, and this will be publicly settled, and we can lynch Skates tomorrow.

As to why I didn't post this right away:

1. I didn't want Skates to know he had already been found out. The fact is, though, he almost certainly already knew, so this was rather pointless.

2. I was afraid that I might be conscripted and that the person who said that he/she had heard from the investigator might have been the investigator himself/herself, in which case I would then be able to give his/her identity. This was such a far-fetched case, it's hard for me to believe now that it held me back.

3. Basically, I was just being stupid.

So hopefully we can just confirm that Skates is mafia, lynch him, and be on with the game.

I need sleep now, and I need to prepare for Arcadia. I think, though, that I have put out enough information for this to play itself out. I'll check the forum occasionally to make sure that everything is going as it should. Inspector #2, inspect Skates for the killing of Steven. And yes you can investigate a previous day's death in this way.

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I'm not entirely sure I can trust Daniel, but whoever the investigator is, MAKE SURE YOU CAN TRUST YOUR SURROGATE. I'm not actually sure how you can do this (since the only reason I trusted Steven last time was because he sent me a screen shot of his role assignment), but just keep that in mind and be extra cautious.

This can be extremely dangerous, as information can be leaked to the mafia and you will be in danger. If Daniel is actually the investigator (if he's not, then he's definitely mafia), then he's going to be a target, and we really need the other investigator to be alive and safe.

In thinking about this, it is possible that Skates might be the actual investigator, in which case the roles in this whole situation would be switched and Daniel simply posted earlier to cast suspicion on Skates, a process in which he also incriminated himself. However, I think this is unlikely and a bit too elaborate to be believable. Skates, can you please explain what happened?

"screen shot"? Is that allowed?

No. That is very un-allowed.

I'll repost here what I sent to Daniel earlier today:

"You're killing me here. First you act really suspicious during our meeting in the TFL as if you know something is about to happen by dropping your stuff everywhere and leaving in a flurry but don't say what you're talking about. Then you claim to my face that you voted for someone when you definitely didn't (you know that's fine to just say you won't be voting for anyone. It's not like you cast the deciding vote or anything, we're a damn mess as townspeople and based on what you told me I was convinced to give the go-ahead to lynch Jayson. If you really didn't want it to happen, you could have easily made it so and voted no lynch while convincing me to do so.) Then you post on the forums stating that you have a secret reason to be very sketchy and don't disclose what it is, giving mafia (assuming you're even on townspeople's side) a great chance to kill you or anyone else involved (and if you're mafia you just gave yourself a free pass to manipulate people.) I can't tell if you're just a bad mafia or you actually have something here. In the event you're not mafia, I really hope you know what you're doing.

Oh and if you're mafia don't even think about killing me. I'm ready for all you guys and I've instructed two people I'm 99% sure about to forward a prepared message in the event of my death."

Now on to what you've said.

Firstly I don't understand how another player told another player who told you (that's two chances for information to pass through a mafia), and now you're telling us that I'm mafia. That's the biggest piece of BS I've ever heard (two levels of hearsay for those of you schooled in the legal profession.)

Secondly, that you received this information in the TFL right at 11:57 while we were meeting? Like you seriously expect us to believe that? I told multiple people about our meeting in the TFL and encouraged them to come, including Vivian and Yi. You were the only one to show up. I would have had a big crosshair on my head should you have died in the TFL.

Thirdly, multiple people can confirm my alibi, as I was playing videogames in 3w in my room swearing loudly. All you have to do is go down to 3w and ask people who live in the hall, including Steve Bartel, Eva Klinman, and Adam Mohammed. I encourage the two real inspectors to inspect me, given this claim.

Fourthly every way you've gone about this has done yourself a disservice and made no sense from the perspective of the rational townsperson. I don't see any other corroborating claims on this forum to your second level hearsay, something I would expect from any investigator in this game.

Fifthly, I'll be pissed if we lose this game either due to your incompetence/manipulation and at this point hope you're mafia in which case we don't have to be subjected to your inabilities as a townsperson.

To any investigators out there:

If you have not done so already, investigate skates for the killing of Steven Mo. Regardless of the result, post it on the forum through a surrogate (or chain of the such.) If anybody comes up with a "negative" response for skates, we know that the "investigator" from whom I got the message was lying. I will reveal who sent me the message, who will surely in turn reveal who s/he received the message from. Then you can lynch all three of us if you want, and you will be sure to have killed at least one mafia.

I can't imagine the mafia would have pulled a stunt like that, though, because it is inevitable that it will be traced back to them. I am very, very confident that skates is mafia.

So investigator(s): Investigate skates immediately, and get the result posted on the forum right away. All investigator(s) should do this!

You really are posting a claim from someone who told you they know an investigator? Like seriously Daniel, you're banking the game on that? This does not make sense. Secondly, why hasn't anyone else come out to back this phantom investigator as well? I certainly would not put all my trust in one person (least of all, a good mafia player like yourself), it does not make sense.

I might not have a ghostly investigator of my own, but I do have reasonableness on my side.

Is this vengeance for the time you got killed for looking suspicious in the game of mafia that we played in the TFL? In which case you're being really, really petty (although I can't say I'd put it past you.)

And finally, if you are mafia, who are you trying to protect in Next House? (although I must admit you're doing a good job giving them cover)

What also does not make sense is how Daniel could have easily gotten a no-lynch yesterday, yet continued to encourage me to post about lynching Jayson and even claimed to have voted for them himself.

This is the worst fake story I've ever seen.

I don't feel a need to respond to most of what skates wrote; all I can do is wait for my accusation to be confirmed.

I have to note, though, in regards to Skate's last comment, that I learned he killed Steven at 11:57 p.m. Prior to that I reluctantly was going to support lynching Jason, but I was waiting until the last minute to do so, to see if anything new would come up on the forum. When I received the message about skates, I dropped what I was, doing, logged off, made my excuses, and ran back to Simmons.

This was the (rather ill-conceived) reason for my initial cryptic post. ("Note everybody, that I didn't vote. This will be important later.")

And Spencer, if you are actually not mafia there is really not anything to be upset about. If my accusation against you is false then the other investigators will refute the claim, in which case my chain of contacts will be released publicly, and at least one mafia will be lynched.

Perhaps the medkit should be passed to the investigators?

Are you kidding me? Throwing mud like this?

This is almost as bad of a moment as the Michelle Obama's "whitey" video, where one conservative blogger threw mud at Michelle Obama by claiming to have "multiple sources" who claimed to know someone in possession of tapes where Michelle Obama had called white people "whitey" while on a pulpit. The rumors picked up steam when other news sites started to circulate the rumors. After no video surfaced, it turned out to be a total fabrication by the single blogger that spun out of control after people trusted a single unreliable source:

http://michellemalkin.com/2008/06/03/wh ... tey-video/
(and yeah, that link above is to Michelle Malkin's website, the conservative author)

The problem is: does whomever with the medkit know who the investigator is? Should they go through an intermediate? How much should the intermediate be trusted?

We should make a protocol for this transfer; having only one medkit makes it that much more valuable, no?

i'm the second investigator and got a affirmative answer that daniel killed steven mo in day 2! i don't trust daniel anymore; i think skates is right and that we shall probably lynch daniel tonight.

Voice of Alex: Amy is not a player in this game. Please ignore this.

Personally, I'm of the opinion we should lynch both of them.
They may orchestrating the whole debacle.

IMPORTANT: Amy, you're not in this game, since you unfortunately registered late. You don't have a role. Everyone, please ignore this claim.