Mafia Chat: Day 0 and 1
Pravina S (
pravina.naomi@gmail.com)
pokes
Pravina • Mar 8, 9:12 PM
Thanks pravina!
Mar 8, 9:13 PM
Lucy renamed the Hangout to People I trust
Don't tell anyone about this chat. Especially not Dylan since I named the mafia chat the same as when i though i was mafia with him.
Mar 8, 9:14 PM
Tin C (
tinashechagwedera@gmail.com,
tinashe@mit.edu)
wow dam, mafia on first game, pravina dropping me in head first here
Tin • Mar 8, 10:47 PM
Pravina S (
pravina.naomi@gmail.com)
I'm sorry! It took four rerolls before it was optimal to throw you under the bus like that
Also, Tin, you haven't posted your intro yet! How are the mafia going to be able to kill you if they don't know where you are?
Pravina • Mar 8, 10:53 PM
Tin C (
tinashechagwedera@gmail.com,
tinashe@mit.edu)
k intro done
items are in the pm right?
Tin • Mar 8, 11:09 PM
Pravina S (
pravina.naomi@gmail.com)
yep
Pravina • Mar 8, 11:14 PM
Tin C (
tinashechagwedera@gmail.com,
tinashe@mit.edu)
about this execution stuff, is someone killed tonight basically?
if so who should i vote for?
Tin • Mar 8, 11:16 PM
Josh Brunner
The first day ends tomorrow at 10pm so we still have a day
Is Lucy at the house now?
Josh • Mar 8, 11:17 PM
sorry just left. If you all want to talk in person and think you can sneak out of the house without being seen, come on over to my apartment
Does anyone have ammo?
Mar 8, 11:48 PM
Important thing to remember, once you open a pm, whoever sent it can see that you've opened it
so if you're pretending to not be paying attention don't open any pms
Mar 9, 12:49 AM
Josh Brunner
I am on campus and free from 10:30-11, 12:30ish-2:00, and 3-5 if we want to plan a kill then
Josh • Mar 9, 1:15 AM
we should reach out to Lily for help in killing dgrazian
Mar 9, 1:18 AM
Josh Brunner
His intro says lily is out of town wednesday to saturday so I dont know how it would help
Josh • Mar 9, 1:20 AM
sadness
I'll poke her to see what time on Wednesday she leaves though she might be asleep already
who has arousals tomorrow?
Mar 9, 1:21 AM
Josh Brunner
Checking
Jordan
Josh • Mar 9, 1:22 AM
we could kill her then
everyone's alibi would be asleep
Mar 9, 1:23 AM
Josh Brunner
I am aroused at 8:00am each day
Lbs is aroused at 8:15
Does killing her in dorm at 8:15 seem like a way to frame Luke?
Josh • Mar 9, 1:26 AM
when do arousals start? I could sneak over and kill her before she arouses anyone
or that
Mar 9, 1:27 AM
Josh Brunner
First arousal is mandy at 7:45 for tomorrow
Josh • Mar 9, 1:27 AM
do you think you can kill her in dorm without being caught?
Mar 9, 1:27 AM
Josh Brunner
Not necessarily. If anyone is already half awake then they would see it. I think an on campus kill has the greatest chance of success with weak ali is for people
Josh • Mar 9, 1:29 AM
ok can we kill pesto? he's so loud
Mar 9, 1:31 AM
Josh Brunner
Let me check his intro
On wed at 12:30 he leaves a class in stata. I have a recitation then, but I probably wasn't going to attend anyway and could go make the kill there
People know I often dont attend that recitation so I wouldn't have much of an alibi, but recitation is better than no alibi.
Lbs and jamb will alibi each other at lunch if the kill happens then
Josh • Mar 9, 1:36 AM
Could you get an np to buy lunch for you?
it wouldn't be weird to have a receipt for lunch since you said you often skip the recitation for lunch
Also Tin what items do you have?
whoops you totally posted
Mar 9, 1:39 AM
Tin C (
tinashechagwedera@gmail.com,
tinashe@mit.edu)
pravina, can i open recipe adn present pls?
Tin • Mar 9, 1:39 AM
what is the glass shield?
and is the gun limited?
Mar 9, 1:40 AM
Tin C (
tinashechagwedera@gmail.com,
tinashe@mit.edu)
Keeps you alive when you otherwise would have fallen. One use only, after which point it will splinter into glass shards. You may also break your shield voluntarily, if you would like.
Initially comes discharged. To use, needs to be combined with Ammo. Allows one use of the "Bang!" incant. After using it once, becomes useless again until you get more Ammo. Does not bypass kill immunity. Only useable by someone who has not made a "Bang!" kill earlier in the day.
^gun
Tin • Mar 9, 1:41 AM
so we can make three kills each day?
Mar 9, 1:41 AM
Josh Brunner
There is a half hour gap though between when I normally buy lunch and when I need to kill pesto. It would be wierd for me to have a receipt at that time.
Josh • Mar 9, 1:42 AM
Tin C (
tinashechagwedera@gmail.com,
tinashe@mit.edu)
I thought mafia was limited to 1 kill per day? or is that town?
Tin • Mar 9, 1:42 AM
that's in a normal game
Mar 9, 1:42 AM
Josh Brunner
Lucy: sounds like we can
Josh • Mar 9, 1:42 AM
wow we have a lot of power it looks like
we should all make a kill tomorrow
and strike at the people with ammo
Mar 9, 1:43 AM
Josh Brunner
My gun also says nothing about needing ammo
Josh • Mar 9, 1:43 AM
ok so we can kill four people tomorrow?
nice!
i really don't know how to play this
Mar 9, 1:44 AM
Josh Brunner
Yes, but the person using my gun must use tins first
Josh • Mar 9, 1:44 AM
right
Mar 9, 1:44 AM
Josh Brunner
How much total ammo do we have?
Josh • Mar 9, 1:45 AM
four
ok now im kinda scared about what town has
Mar 9, 1:45 AM
Josh Brunner
We win by killing 8 town, so 4 tins gun+2 my gun + 2ammo from dead people could win in 2 days if we dont get lynched
Josh • Mar 9, 1:46 AM
and we can avoid a lynch if we know who the target is by giving them the shield
Mar 9, 1:47 AM
Josh Brunner
Wow
Josh • Mar 9, 1:47 AM
ok josh you need to be involved in every conversation that happens at ET
Town must have some crazy power
and we want to know about it and don't want them to be motivated to use it
or something
Mar 9, 1:48 AM
Josh Brunner
Do we want to go on killing spree day 1?
Josh • Mar 9, 1:49 AM
yes
we can kill four people with guns
splash some others
so at the end of day 1, we can kill 7 people
assuming the lynch is town and no one is immune to bangs
wait 8? missed that each of us started with gasoline
ok lots of townies must have glass shields
or something to prevent bang from working
we should make kills in pairs
so that the other person can try banging them again immediately after if they say they don't die
Mar 9, 1:53 AM
Josh Brunner
So when fire is used, all splash targets immediately die?
Josh • Mar 9, 1:54 AM
they die that night
Mar 9, 1:54 AM
Josh Brunner
We should splash day 1 and fire day 2 I think
The status of splashed stays for more than a day, right
Josh • Mar 9, 1:55 AM
do we need the combinator to combine the ammo and gun?
cuz if so, this won't work
there's a twelve hour delay between every succesful combination
Mar 9, 1:56 AM
Tin C (
tinashechagwedera@gmail.com,
tinashe@mit.edu)
so how about someone takes both guns and makes a kill just inc ase town has shield
Tin • Mar 9, 2:01 AM
yeah ok let's plan on going slow
or is pravina awake?
she could clarify what need my combinator and what doesn't
Mar 9, 2:02 AM
Josh Brunner
Is there a rule about no double bangs. Like i didnt think in normal games you could bang then immediatly kaboom if it failed
Josh • Mar 9, 2:04 AM
doesn't seem to be
Though in normal games that is not allowed
I transfer all my items to Tin
mugging is totally a thing, it seems best to have all the items with one person
Mar 9, 2:07 AM
Tin C (
tinashechagwedera@gmail.com,
tinashe@mit.edu)
So i can try to get pesto in his office 2mrw at between 1:45->2:30
Tin • Mar 9, 2:09 AM
first you should combine 1 ammo with the gun. Now in case we do have a 12 hour delay
Mar 9, 2:11 AM
Tin C (
tinashechagwedera@gmail.com,
tinashe@mit.edu)
hwo to combine
Tin • Mar 9, 2:11 AM
and get Josh's gun
just pm Pravina
or post here
Mar 9, 2:11 AM
Tin C (
tinashechagwedera@gmail.com,
tinashe@mit.edu)
think i t needs ur combinator
Tin • Mar 9, 2:11 AM
I passed all my items to you
guess i should send you all the descriptions
Mar 9, 2:12 AM
Josh Brunner
Lucy, dont you need to physically come to give tin your items
Josh • Mar 9, 2:12 AM
not for mafia
we can freely pass items between us
Mar 9, 2:12 AM
Tin C (
tinashechagwedera@gmail.com,
tinashe@mit.edu)
ok
magical teleportation
Tin • Mar 9, 2:12 AM
Josh Brunner
Lucy: where is this in the rules?
I see it nevermind
Josh • Mar 9, 2:14 AM
Tin C (
tinashechagwedera@gmail.com,
tinashe@mit.edu)
ok so for pravina, im combining ammo and gun
Tin • Mar 9, 2:14 AM
Josh Brunner
Lucy you need to post it in mafia den to count
Josh • Mar 9, 2:14 AM
pm'ed her
Mar 9, 2:16 AM
what if we have someone, probably Tin, "splash" 3 ppl, using both poisons and a gasoline.One or both of Josh and I also say we've been splashed. One or both of us also say we've been poisoned
can't tell if this is a good idea or no
Mar 9, 2:45 AM
Tin C (
tinashechagwedera@gmail.com,
tinashe@mit.edu)
is it supposed to be a "public" splash?
Tin • Mar 9, 2:46 AM
private so josh and or i can both claim to have had this done to us
idk how well this will work
Mar 9, 2:46 AM
Tin C (
tinashechagwedera@gmail.com,
tinashe@mit.edu)
i like that idea
if i splash 3 people and say it does some random thing
or 4 people with one of you being a "false splash
Tin • Mar 9, 2:49 AM
the poisoned ppl wouldn't die until the end of day 3 i think
Mar 9, 2:50 AM
Tin C (
tinashechagwedera@gmail.com,
tinashe@mit.edu)
maybe not poison
save poison until one uis is out and about to get lynched
Tin • Mar 9, 2:51 AM
Josh Brunner
I think we want this, or wait until exactly 2 days before were about to win, so the poison deaths trigger our win
Also fire should only be used when its kills will cause us to immediately win
Josh • Mar 9, 2:52 AM
agreed
Mar 9, 2:52 AM
Josh Brunner
I think splashing once per day with tin's gasoline claiming it has no effect and was done to lucy and I is good
We should come up with a reason why we are splashing that isn't magikarp
Josh • Mar 9, 2:54 AM
so if it's just one person doing all the splashing, it could be they have something they're trying to empty to see what's at the bottom
Mar 9, 2:55 AM
Josh Brunner
Like if they splash n times, they get an item for it?
Josh • Mar 9, 2:55 AM
yeah
and it self-combusts if transferred away
Mar 9, 2:56 AM
Tin C (
tinashechagwedera@gmail.com,
tinashe@mit.edu)
yeah nice idea, also pesto mentioned handling someting, so I could pm him and fish for details to lower suspciison
ask him like "can your item hold liquids?"
Tin • Mar 9, 2:57 AM
hmm town must have a combinator as well. If that's our limit we really want to know who has it
that seems good
Mar 9, 2:58 AM
Tin C (
tinashechagwedera@gmail.com,
tinashe@mit.edu)
to wrap up, we want to kill pesto 2mrw
I can check 2-332a and 2290
and maybe kill him in the morning
Tin • Mar 9, 2:59 AM
ok
we should use poison today
Mar 9, 2:59 AM
Josh Brunner
Are we winning day 3 you think?
Josh • Mar 9, 3:00 AM
Or I can post tomorrow asking for food because pravinas tells me i'm hungry and then have one of you redistribute it
i don't think we're sad if one of us gets caught day 1
And should therefore plan on it happening by having them do all the things
Mar 9, 3:01 AM
Tin C (
tinashechagwedera@gmail.com,
tinashe@mit.edu)
i dont understand that at all
Tin • Mar 9, 3:01 AM
like tin kills two people tomorrow and splashes three. If he can avoid a vigilante, he can use his shield to avoid the lynch
and kill two more people at day rollover
hmmm if we're throwing this person under the bus, maybe it shouldn't be tin?
and if you can avoid a vigilante for day 2 then neither josh or i are likely to get lynched
so end of day 2 is down 1 mafia, down 4 townies, with 2 others doused in gasoline and 2 others dying at the end of day 3
day 3 whichever of us claims poisoned makes two kills
that's everyone
maybe
probably
Mar 9, 3:07 AM
Tin C (
tinashechagwedera@gmail.com,
tinashe@mit.edu)
so to summarize
- attempt to kill pesto in morning (me)
attempt to kill pesto at start of class( hjosh)
attemp to kill pesto at 1:45ish (me)
Tin • Mar 9, 3:19 AM
yes
have an alibi ready
and wait a few hours to post your alibi
Mar 9, 3:24 AM
Tin C (
tinashechagwedera@gmail.com,
tinashe@mit.edu)
k ill try hopefully im up at that time
out
Tin • Mar 9, 4:10 AM
Tin C (
tinashechagwedera@gmail.com,
tinashe@mit.edu)
are we allowed to send photo evidence of where we are when a kill is announced?
also it is allowed to shoot justin and pesto on the entrance to or exit form their meeting today right?
with the separate weapons. and lastly pls confirm incantation for either weapon
Tin • Mar 9, 8:07 AM
Pravina S (
pravina.naomi@gmail.com)
No photo evidence. (that would count as electronic evidence and is too powerful)
yes you can kill them on their meeting day
I mean enter/exit
I believe all weapons you have are associated with "bang"
Did you actually kill pesto?
(he didn't really hear)
Also, I didn't get a time
Pravina • Mar 9, 8:53 AM
Josh Brunner
Pravina: is combinator necessary to combine ammo with gun? I think so, but wanted to check
Josh • Mar 9, 8:54 AM
Pravina S (
pravina.naomi@gmail.com)
yes
okay dammit I'm not getting the necessary "Pesto is dead" information
Tin apparently killed pesto, but I don't know when and where
Pravina • Mar 9, 8:59 AM
Tin C (
tinashechagwedera@gmail.com,
tinashe@mit.edu)
pesto dead
time~ 830 -8:35
second floor
honestly time may be off by a bit
Tin • Mar 9, 9:07 AM
Pravina S (
pravina.naomi@gmail.com)
I got the information from Pesto
Pravina • Mar 9, 9:08 AM
Tin C (
tinashechagwedera@gmail.com,
tinashe@mit.edu)
it was about 5 min before van left
Tin • Mar 9, 9:08 AM
Pravina S (
pravina.naomi@gmail.com)
but for future reference, a kill doesn't count until the mafia sends me the time and location when it happened
Pravina • Mar 9, 9:08 AM
Tin C (
tinashechagwedera@gmail.com,
tinashe@mit.edu)
does it have to be on the shoulder?
Tin • Mar 9, 9:15 AM
Pravina S (
pravina.naomi@gmail.com)
yes
Pravina • Mar 9, 9:15 AM
Tin C (
tinashechagwedera@gmail.com,
tinashe@mit.edu)
ok rule said tap?
Tin • Mar 9, 9:16 AM
Pravina S (
pravina.naomi@gmail.com)
yes.
did you not kill him?
Pravina • Mar 9, 9:16 AM
Tin C (
tinashechagwedera@gmail.com,
tinashe@mit.edu)
Pesto is kinda tall, so more of his back area
Tin • Mar 9, 9:17 AM
Pravina S (
pravina.naomi@gmail.com)
pfft
I rule it as counting
Pravina • Mar 9, 9:17 AM
Tin C (
tinashechagwedera@gmail.com,
tinashe@mit.edu)
I will not be able to make any hit attempts in till 1
Josh you want gun
also, dang whats up with the location specificity?! im screwed
Tin • Mar 9, 9:23 AM
Josh Brunner
So far it seems the kill went very well. Lotta, me, jordan, justin, Luke, tin are all equally suspicious I think, and Dylan and sashacf are a little less suspicious. I think only Lucy, dgrazian, and jamb will have good alibis.
The guns won't be loaded till 2pm anyway, so you can keep them.
Josh • Mar 9, 10:50 AM
Tin C (
tinashechagwedera@gmail.com,
tinashe@mit.edu)
if i get accused, how do i play it off?
Tin • Mar 9, 11:27 AM
don't get too defensive
stay calm
ah your alibi is really bad
i assume it was posted before you knew what the kill location would be posted as?
act as though you're trying to recreate what happened this morning and just repeat that you came downstairs and didn't see anyone on the second floor or something
Mar 9, 11:38 AM
tin remember to splash ppl before you become too suspicious. Who do we want poisoned vs doused?
The only difference would be that the poisoned people get told they've been poisoned during the night cycle
Also I think we want only Tin making kills today so he splashes 3 ppl and kills 1 more person
Mar 9, 12:06 PM
Pravina S (
pravina.naomi@gmail.com)
Frick, I messed up. Again. Gasoline must be on a player for at least 24 hours before they burn.
(Sorry)
Pravina • Mar 9, 12:43 PM
ok what if we have tin only poison people
and josh and i douse ppl
That way it will seem as though we have a similar item but it does something different based on whether a townie or a mafia has it
so day 1: Tin kills 2 ppl, poisons 2 ppl, Josh and I douse 2 ppl, Tin gets caught but is not lynched because of the shield. one of Josh or I claim to be poisoned
Day 2: Tin kills 2 more people (this might be more difficult) one of us douses someone in gasoline
poisons 3 ppl sorry
that's 4 dead, 3 poisoned, 3 doused
Day 3 we have 8 players left, 2 mafia, 6 townies
wait what if we set fire to them during the night 2 night phase?
so we would all douse someone in gasoline
Tin kills 4 ppl
We all douse someone day 1
If we use fire day 2
Then At the beginning of Day 3 we probably have 3 v 2?
am i counting right?
And the three have been poisoned
no im not counting right give me a bit
no i am i think
What's the worst thing that can happen if one of Josh or I make a kill today?
shit i should be working
Mar 9, 1:06 PM
Josh Brunner
Luke has a combinator, 1 ammo, and something else. He revealed to jamb and me. Jamb is going to proxy for him posting on town square to give her useless items. We should kill Luke tomorrow to get all the useless items and the combinator. However, if he dies jamb will strongly suspect me, so it should be done at a time when my alibi is much stronger than hers by one of you two.
Josh • Mar 9, 1:21 PM
hmm okay so we want luke dead
What if we kill jamb today and luke tomorrow?
Tin could you kill her at 2 in 2-103? She should be going in to class there
posting plan on Forum since it seems like a better method of communication
wait what if we just kill both today?
Mar 9, 1:44 PM
Pravina S (
pravina.naomi@gmail.com)
Wait, did I give you that many bullets?
Pravina • Mar 9, 1:45 PM
we have 4 i think
was that a mistake?
Mar 9, 1:46 PM
Pravina S (
pravina.naomi@gmail.com)
But also it takes 12 hours to combine
Pravina • Mar 9, 1:46 PM
right but the bloodthirsty gun doesn't require ammo
so tin can use that gun and one of Josh or I can use the normal gun
Mar 9, 1:47 PM
Pravina S (
pravina.naomi@gmail.com)
What was used for the morning kill? What was the sn? I think you're fine, but my spreadsheet needs this info
Pravina • Mar 9, 1:50 PM
tin combined an ammo with the gun
don't think he specified sn
Mar 9, 1:50 PM
Pravina S (
pravina.naomi@gmail.com)
I mean of what was used to make the kill.
Pravina • Mar 9, 1:51 PM
the normal gun
f47
Mar 9, 1:51 PM
Pravina S (
pravina.naomi@gmail.com)
Okay, thanks.
Pravina • Mar 9, 1:51 PM
ok what are we doing?
right now tin can kill 1 other person and if he passes the gun to one of us we can kill someone else
I'm probably gonna splash sasha today at 4 unless we want to kill him instead
them*
also given pravinas change of plans, which do we want?
i think we should just kill as many people as possible
so Tin kill Luke to get his combinator an then both josh and i make a kill
and pravinas balances by buffing town rather than making us more dependent on the combinator
Mar 9, 3:16 PM
Nvm can't douse sasha because tin has all the items
Mar 9, 3:37 PM
Tin C (
tinashechagwedera@gmail.com,
tinashe@mit.edu)
giving all items to dosh, going to catch some zzz
*josh
Tin • Mar 9, 3:47 PM
Josh Brunner
If dgrazian comes over tonight, someone should kill him. He's scary and has a relatively strong alibi for this morning.
Josh • Mar 9, 3:48 PM
Ok we should kill Luke and dgrazian tonight?
Mar 9, 3:49 PM
Josh Brunner
Lucy: do you want me to give you a gasoline to splash sashacf now?
Josh • Mar 9, 3:49 PM
Yes what story are we going with?
Mar 9, 3:49 PM
Josh Brunner
Someone suggested: an item which gives you something good if you splash 3 times, max 1/day
Josh • Mar 9, 3:51 PM
K sounds good
Mar 9, 3:52 PM
Failed to douse sasha but can do it later today
Mar 9, 4:20 PM
Splashed sashacf
Josh so we can kill at least 2 more ppl today
Just kill Luke and Jackie now
Mar 9, 6:09 PM
Tin C (
tinashechagwedera@gmail.com,
tinashe@mit.edu)
are we still going with the fast strategy?
Tin • Mar 9, 8:36 PM
Yes someone needs to kill two people tonight. That same person poisons 3 people. The other one
Doused someobe
Mar 9, 9:29 PM
Pravina S (
pravina.naomi@gmail.com)
Is the spreadsheet josh posted on forums the game state as you think it is?
please respond to that post?
Pravina • Mar 9, 9:34 PM
Josh Brunner
should I kill lotta when I go in there?
Josh • Mar 9, 9:57 PM
Tin C (
tinashechagwedera@gmail.com,
tinashe@mit.edu)
my opinion is that a slow strategy may be more solid. the weekend may have better opportunities.
but go for it if u think ur covered
Tin • Mar 9, 9:59 PM
End of Day 1