^ I think this feels kind of sketchy, but I can't quantify why. Something about being uncharacteristically quick to take the initiative to start your own petition, and not someone else's for the other position...

I would advocate against electing isaacg on these grounds, but these are not strong feelings, so I'm not sure.

Isaac, nastya, Dgrazian, and Sammy are trying to run for elected positions. This act has historically been mildly correlated with being mafia.

Tuan was stalked by tsims stalker on day 1, says Katie.

Tuan confirms and says he was too busy to know to reveal

ltchin has acted (and trollingly claims mafia / does not answer "no" to "are you mafia," but this probably means nothing)

Oh, before I forget:

Last night, at one point I asked nastya (in person) whether she was typing up a town square post. She said, no, she was messaging someone to try to get more investigators to proxy through her (???), even though we'd explicitly talked earlier about the fact that we shouldn't pick proxies who volunteer themselves, etc.

It seemed like a credible point of confusion at the time (as in, she acted confused after I gave my reply), but I'm not sure how good nastya is at lying / acting confused, and this along with several other points of that conversation that felt slightly odd (for less concrete reasons), makes me feel a little bit of sketch.

I didn't actually end up messaging anyone yesterday after you told me that I should not do that, but I was going through forums to think whom I might message and then composing a message for them. I was trying to write an elaborate message to explain people why I was even messaging and to give good reasons to investigate that other person even though tsims (right? I'm not sure about the name) was already found guilty and my other investigation didn't give any results.

[Message from sammyluo, cannot copy.]

Because I was generally frustrated with the fact that tsims was found guilty so fast and then nobody even considered checking anyone else. Especially taking into account that he killed someone else later. (Or was found to be guilty.)

I was going to poke people that were very active on investigator thread because they are either investigators themselves or are proxying for someone else.

Either way, those people had a chance to do something about investigations.

[sammyluo understands my reasoning, somewhat agrees with me but proceeds to tell me that pming someone is sketchy. Also, he mentions that I should pm investigators/proxies only when they are not posting anything in a while.]

Well, after you told me that it's generally not a good idea to state publicly who you are going to investigate because mafia can mess with it, I decided that pm might be more secure. Besides, if I pm mafia, they can easily protect a person deflecting any guilt and avoiding unnecessary exposure because they would think that it's more personal. But if I get two people to investigate independently, not knowing about the investigations occuring, they can return contradictory results and I would know that one of them is mafia.

[sammyluo considers my point.]

The main issue here is trust

If people could trust one person and concentrate all investigations anonymously to that one person and then post after all investigations occured, mafia would avoid fake investigations because then that person would easily catch them. However, that person would instantly become a target for the mafia. Unless, of course, that person is a mafia themselves.

[sammyluo agrees with me.]

I don't remember the conversation very clearly (because, well, I was drunk (sammy, ksedlar, nastya, tsims, ltchin can probably confirm)) but in the 1E party I was jokingly blaming jakob for killing ijc and then he got back at me saying I did it, and then I started whining about not being able to because I'm not mafia, and then he was asking me if I wanted to be mafia, if I wanted to kill people. Which I found a little sketchy.

Just thought any bit of information on the jakob/tsims mess could be useful.