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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2016 8:23 pm 
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Location: EC - Floorpi
Sammy Luo

I just made a long post in the den

brainstorm ideas, e.g. who to poison and all

fmajluf7 might ask you to count the mafia tomorrow (she trusts you more now) instead of shoveling. So think about what to do with that

in the meantime, I'm going to sleep
Anastasiya Bershanska
1:39am
Anastasiya Bershanska

good night

I'll read your post and write my thoughts
Today
Sammy Luo
2:10pm
Sammy Luo

How much should I influence the shoveling that may or may not happen today? Should I just let it happen if fmajluf7 wants it to happen?
Anastasiya Bershanska
2:21pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Don't go out of your way to prevent shoveling, but if other people are also arguing against it, pick their side

For example, argue that there are very few shovels left and you might want to save shovels for later

Also, who is the prime suspect now?
Sammy Luo
2:25pm
Sammy Luo

Not sure

haven't been talking to people

because busy (both real and fake)
Anastasiya Bershanska
2:25pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Good

Talk to them later tonight
Sammy Luo
2:25pm
Sammy Luo

OK
Anastasiya Bershanska
2:26pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Also, how many people are going to go to Pinkies tonight?

I'm just curious

Also, whom should we kill today? Who would be a safe bet?
Sammy Luo
2:29pm
Sammy Luo

No idea about pinkies

What counts as a safe bet?
Anastasiya Bershanska
2:30pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Who isn't part of the network? We can't kill them because we want to set them up
Sammy Luo
2:30pm
Sammy Luo

If we want you to make the kill, it should not be on a gn or your don power will not be useful

Um, check the spreadsheet

So we want to kill someone not in the network?
Anastasiya Bershanska
2:33pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

No, someone in the network, so that GNs that are not part of the network will become part of it and "betray it"

So either innocent child or investigator (any kind)
Sammy Luo
2:34pm
Sammy Luo

Investigator?

I'm confused
Anastasiya Bershanska
2:35pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Either child in the network or investigator
Sammy Luo
2:35pm
Sammy Luo

Oh I see
Anastasiya Bershanska
2:35pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

(I know investigators are not part of the network)
Sammy Luo
2:36pm
Sammy Luo

You're saying we don't want to kill someone who's going to be added to the network
Anastasiya Bershanska
2:36pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

More players come to Pikies, better chance someone else would be accused

Yes, we want people to be added to the network
Sammy Luo
2:36pm
Sammy Luo

Ok

We also don't want to kill ic because we can kill them for free another day
Anastasiya Bershanska
2:37pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

May be

We want to make one or two kills today
Sammy Luo
2:38pm
Sammy Luo

Yeah
Anastasiya Bershanska
2:38pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Most likely, one and with lots of people around
Sammy Luo
2:38pm
Sammy Luo

ICS are the least rate limited

As in there are only two of them and we can kill one any day in addition to any other kills

I see Tuan
Anastasiya Bershanska
2:40pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

He will be at Pinkies tonight

Can you come to Pinkies tonight and tell me how many players there are?
Sammy Luo
2:43pm
Sammy Luo

uh I'll try. Poke me closer to that time.
Anastasiya Bershanska
2:44pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Ok
Sammy Luo
2:46pm
Sammy Luo

So basically, killing IC is better than no kill day, but worse than killing an arbitrary other player

if you can somehow kill a GN without getting investigated by the other one, that would work, but that seems hard
Anastasiya Bershanska
2:46pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Worse than killing GN
Sammy Luo
2:46pm
Sammy Luo

well, depends
Anastasiya Bershanska
2:47pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Yeah, that seems almost impossible

I'll kill at Pinkies and people know I'll be there

Because I serve
Sammy Luo
2:47pm
Sammy Luo

ok

wait, then you'll know how many players are there, right?
Anastasiya Bershanska
2:48pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

That's why it's a good place to kill, I move around a lot and come up to people

No, I ran back&forth to and from kitchen, so it's hard to keep track of people
Sammy Luo
2:49pm
Sammy Luo

ok

do you also want to frame someone?
Anastasiya Bershanska
2:49pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

I'm considering that

Does frame work on GN? I'm pretty sure it doesn't
Sammy Luo
2:49pm
Sammy Luo

no

so don't kill a GN probably
Anastasiya Bershanska
2:50pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Ok, that's what I'm thinking
Sammy Luo
2:50pm
Sammy Luo

the thing is that everyone in EC is either IC, GN, stalker, GI, or mafia

max and tuan are the two GIs
Anastasiya Bershanska
2:50pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

So kill stalker or GI?
Sammy Luo
2:51pm
Sammy Luo

I guess

I mean, the stalker could be added to the network

after they shovel dgrazian

but that's better than no kill

um, the point is that everyone in EC is someone the network trusts except you and possibly tuan/max (who I've been vouching for)

unless we can get the network to become more suspicious of the GNs
Anastasiya Bershanska
2:54pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Try to think of the way we can make network suspicious of GNs

Frame?
Sammy Luo
2:54pm
Sammy Luo

not sure

let's see...

if dgrazian shovels as pure mafia, that means there remains one pure mafia and one conscript

so at least one of the remaining mafia has to be someone it makes sense to conscript

meaning, ltchin, Lucy, Alex, achester, or maybe me

so we won't be able to convince them jessk/csvoss are mafia
Anastasiya Bershanska
2:55pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

I sorted things and best target is ajiliu, second best a achester or Itchin, then Max and Tuan. Do you agree?

Oh, we can frame Tuan
Sammy Luo
2:55pm
Sammy Luo

achester isn't going to come to pinkies

and is an IC

I agree that kill ajliu, frame Tuan seems like one of the better options

and then have max investigate a set including Tuan
Anastasiya Bershanska
2:56pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Yeah, just have me and Tuan in different sets
Sammy Luo
2:57pm
Sammy Luo

ok. don't use a trap on ajliu though, right?
Anastasiya Bershanska
2:57pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

And reasoning could be that the network doesn't trust us and having us in different groups would boil down to one person faster

No, I'm going to kill ajiliu regularly and frame Tuan
Sammy Luo
2:58pm
Sammy Luo

right
Anastasiya Bershanska
3:02pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Also, if anyone has questions about me, tell them that you are not really talking with me (unless we are in the same room)
Sammy Luo
3:02pm
Sammy Luo

OK

also, apparently dgrazian transferred away taser 3, and didn't tell us who he transferred it to squint emoticon

so that's one more taser to avoid
Anastasiya Bershanska
3:03pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

And if asked if I conscripted you last night, tell them that then I would have not told others that I'm meeting with you

Ok unsure emoticon
Sammy Luo
3:04pm
Sammy Luo

haha I mean the answer is just "no, who would conscript on day 5?!"

OK, so we're planning on 1 regular kill today, at pinkies, and setting a trap in preparation for tomorrow probably? who do we plan to trap? (we can discuss this closer to day end, I guess)

do you know if ajliu is coming to pinkies?
Anastasiya Bershanska
3:05pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

She does sometimes
Sammy Luo
3:05pm
Sammy Luo

what if she doesn't?
Anastasiya Bershanska
3:06pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

I'll try to make her come
Sammy Luo
3:06pm
Sammy Luo

uh that might be sketchy
Anastasiya Bershanska
3:06pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Also, you can suggest people to come to Pinkies to discuss lunch because you feel bad for what happened last night
Sammy Luo
3:07pm
Sammy Luo

hmm that sounds sketchy

and then looks sketchy if someone dies at pinkies
Anastasiya Bershanska
3:07pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

True
Sammy Luo
3:07pm
Sammy Luo

if she doesn't show up, maybe kill her on beast and frame tuan anyway, assuming she doesn't paranoia text and no one's around?

do you have a phone to see paranoia texts on?
Anastasiya Bershanska
3:09pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Yeah, I'm going off campus now, ttyl
Sammy Luo
3:09pm
Sammy Luo

ok

have fun

anything else I should do now?

if we do this kill, we DO want a shovel used on dgrazian. Otherwise, it might be used on Tuan, which then implicates you
Sammy Luo
3:23pm
Sammy Luo

you should also work on priest lists to claim
Sammy Luo
5:42pm
Sammy Luo

I gave franchi the shovel

Still a bit uncomfortable about pinkies kill but it's probably worth a shot. Have you thought about a tech squares kill? I suppose that's probably hard to pull off if neither of us has ever gone to tech squares before.
Anastasiya Bershanska
5:57pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Sure, then just agree with the use of shovel on dgrazian. Or GCSN is thinking about something else?

Exactly

I can try to do tech squares kill by just catching a victim outside. Who is in tech squares, where and when is the event?
Sammy Luo
6:22pm
Sammy Luo

Sasha, brunnerj, Alex, jordanh, Lucy, achester all have it in their intro (8-10:30 in Lobdell). Achester said he's not going today, Lucy said maybe, sasha said yes

I feel like it's a bit dangerous because you'll be noticed possibly by multiple players
Sammy Luo
6:41pm
Sammy Luo

but then again pinkies puts more attention on you, so idk which is more reasonable

I wish mafia had official experienced NPs to help coordinate kills
Anastasiya Bershanska
6:55pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Yeah unsure emoticon

Also, it would have been easier with more players knowing each other
Sammy Luo
6:56pm
Sammy Luo

Yeah
Anastasiya Bershanska
6:56pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Do you know what NPs go to squares?
Sammy Luo
6:56pm
Sammy Luo

Probably the rest of et tongue emoticon
Anastasiya Bershanska
6:57pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Do you know anyone there?
Sammy Luo
6:57pm
Sammy Luo

No, not really frown emoticon

I know of some people who might be there, but don't know them that well
Anastasiya Bershanska
7:01pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Is there anyone you think you could trust?
Sammy Luo
7:01pm
Sammy Luo

Idk frown emoticon
Anastasiya Bershanska
7:02pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Ok, I'll poke some other people I know about ET
Sammy Luo
7:37pm
Sammy Luo

shoot the network knows you're a vigilante

don't claim priest
Anastasiya Bershanska
7:38pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

It's ok

I didn't claim anything else
Sammy Luo
7:39pm
Sammy Luo

ok

well, this is awkward

I guess if they ask to test you they can do so since you have enough traps
Anastasiya Bershanska
7:39pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

I know unsure emoticon
Sammy Luo
7:39pm
Sammy Luo

I just won't remind them of this
Anastasiya Bershanska
7:39pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Thanks
Sammy Luo
8:10pm
Sammy Luo

the network now kind of trusts tuan because dgrazian proposed him as a lynch
Anastasiya Bershanska
8:24pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

I can frame Andy, he always hangs out with Amanda
Sammy Luo
8:25pm
Sammy Luo

Andy is gn

That won't work

And that would be too obvious
Anastasiya Bershanska
8:26pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Hm, then whom can we frame? Still Tuan?
Sammy Luo
8:26pm
Sammy Luo

Frame Tuan is still not a bad idea

The dgrazian thing could be explained away
Anastasiya Bershanska
8:26pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Yeah
Sammy Luo
8:27pm
Sammy Luo

Backup plans?

Also, will you be busy until day end? If so we should decide who to poison and trap now
Anastasiya Bershanska
8:28pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Then the network should "check me" before new GNs would be added (we were going to pretend that one of them or both are mafia)

I'll be busy in Pinkies, so we should make those decisions now
Sammy Luo
8:28pm
Sammy Luo

Ok

Check you?

(brunnerj is investigator)
Anastasiya Bershanska
8:30pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Also, square goes until 10:30 and I have NP informing me about who is there, so you might consider killing someone at the end because I'll be at Pinkies

Check whether I am vigilante or not
Sammy Luo
8:30pm
Sammy Luo

ah
Anastasiya Bershanska
8:31pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Also, think about NPs whom you might trust to help us scout
Sammy Luo
8:32pm
Sammy Luo

I think I would very likely be noticed at squares
Anastasiya Bershanska
8:32pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

I mean you wouldn't go in, just catch omeone on the way back

*someone
Sammy Luo
8:32pm
Sammy Luo

but it's likely people will be paying attention / together

I guess what I'm also saying is "I'm desperately trying to finish this pset"
Anastasiya Bershanska
8:33pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

yeah, I was just going to ask NP to distract someone/take away from the group

or even two people
Sammy Luo
8:37pm
Sammy Luo

oh brunnerj might be priest

[shrug]

but yeah poison

um so far, the suggested lynch targets have been

ajliu (retracted), andytsai, miranda, Lucy (retracted), jordanh, achester, brunnerj

unfortunately, ET / pika people are probably also most important to poison

for the trap, it should be someone we're pretty sure we'll kill tomorrow

but we don't have to confirm until right before the lynch vote
Anastasiya Bershanska
8:44pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Ok, I'll look whom I would be able to kill tomorrow

Can you think about best poison targets?
Sammy Luo
8:46pm
Sammy Luo

(trap also has to be someone we know the role of, so anyone but brunnerj, sasha, and jordan)

um, let's see

"-Poison two people (not GNs) tonight, preferably people hard to kill and not likely to be lynched, and not likely to become dictators once they are poisoned, but active enough to sometimes vote."

Lucy is proven innocent modulo conscription, but might become a dictator

I don't know how feasible killing her in person is
Anastasiya Bershanska
8:49pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

We'll see. Is she going to squares today?
Sammy Luo
8:49pm
Sammy Luo

yeah
Anastasiya Bershanska
8:49pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

I'm trying to talk to someone about helping me with the squares kill
Sammy Luo
8:49pm
Sammy Luo

but you're going to be at pinkies

and I don't think I can pull it off / am trying to do psets

usually squares kills are done by people who are normally at squares (or really ambitious people with good disguises)
Anastasiya Bershanska
8:51pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

it's ok. If I would have someone help me with a kill, you would need only to go out and come back immediately. The kill would be not at squares, but afterwards. Also, we could frame someone there.

like brunnerj, or archester
Sammy Luo
8:53pm
Sammy Luo

um, I'm not sure it works that smoothly. also, there's trickiness involving getting off hall without being seen, etc

sorry, I really don't want to try this
Anastasiya Bershanska
8:53pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

ok

I'll see what information/opportunities I get
Sammy Luo
8:54pm
Sammy Luo

sigh, I guess the instructions manual for sammyluo did come with "terrible as mafia," so you got what you ordered tongue emoticon

sorry

anyway, back to poison

my top picks based on kill ease and/or not having role info on them are miranda, sashacf, jordanh, brunnerj, Lucy. Unfortunately, several of these are potential lynch targets

and poisoning 2 et people might send the message of "there's no et mafia"
Anastasiya Bershanska
8:57pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

True

I guess, my best bet is classes
Sammy Luo
8:58pm
Sammy Luo

yeah.

oh, I guess an even more important question to decide first is whether we want to shoot for a rapid game or a slow but safer game

if the former, we really want to kill the gay knights early
Anastasiya Bershanska
9:00pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

I was thinking about faster game
Sammy Luo
9:00pm
Sammy Luo

if the latter, we really don't want to get caught by gay knights, so maybe it's worth poisoning 2 gay knights and waiting out the 4 days

OK
Anastasiya Bershanska
9:00pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Do you think slower game would be better?
Sammy Luo
9:00pm
Sammy Luo

no

well, slower game might mean slightly higher chance of winning if we play correctly, but it means more pain / distraction from schoolwork tongue emoticon

and slower could actually be lower chance of winning if we mess things up

OK, for a rapid game, we need to kill one from each pair of gay knights by tomorrow. So, andytsai and jessk

so we should probably set a trap on one of them

but I don't know how easy it is to kill them during the day
Anastasiya Bershanska
9:04pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Andy hangs out a lot with Amanda. I can try to find a moment when Amanda would be out of her room and kill him framing Amanda. I'll then go to Marta and pretend that I was there all the time
Sammy Luo
9:04pm
Sammy Luo

wait, but aren't we trying to kill amanda today?

and as I said, it would be really suspicious for one of them to kill the other

amanda wouldn't do that
Anastasiya Bershanska
9:05pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Yeah, but if that doesn't work because she does not come to Pinkies, we can kill Andy instead
Sammy Luo
9:05pm
Sammy Luo

also, amanda is very trusted because of stalker and the shovel on dgrazian

so you should still frame tuan for andy
Anastasiya Bershanska
9:05pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

ok, if Tuan would be around
Sammy Luo
9:05pm
Sammy Luo

do you expect andy to come to pinkies?
Anastasiya Bershanska
9:06pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

no
Sammy Luo
9:06pm
Sammy Luo

when would you kill him?
Anastasiya Bershanska
9:06pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

He never comes

Afterwards in Amanda's room
Sammy Luo
9:06pm
Sammy Luo

we should ideally kill before day end to avoid another no kill day

oh, you mean kill him while amanda's there?!
Anastasiya Bershanska
9:06pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

No, while Amanda would walk out for a bit
Sammy Luo
9:07pm
Sammy Luo

that would just be really obvious, I'm sorry
Anastasiya Bershanska
9:07pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Yeah unsure emoticon
Sammy Luo
9:07pm
Sammy Luo

yeah, a kill before day end would be ideal

um, idk
Anastasiya Bershanska
9:07pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

I'll try Pinkies
Sammy Luo
9:07pm
Sammy Luo

OK
Anastasiya Bershanska
9:08pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Can you come downstairs to tell me which players are there?
Sammy Luo
9:08pm
Sammy Luo

so like, order food at pinkies?

it's tricky because floorpi has a hallfeed at 10pm today, so it'd be weird for me to go to pinkies

maybe I'll get an NP to go?
Anastasiya Bershanska
9:08pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Brownies?
Sammy Luo
9:09pm
Sammy Luo

also, amanda might come to the hall feed instead, which would be awkward

sigh, idk, planning kills is hard
Anastasiya Bershanska
9:09pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Why would Amanda go to hall feed?
Sammy Luo
9:10pm
Sammy Luo

because she used to live here
Anastasiya Bershanska
9:11pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Oh, Idk
Sammy Luo
9:12pm
Sammy Luo

we need to wait until the lynch decision is made before making tentative poison decisions
Anastasiya Bershanska
9:12pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

ok
Sammy Luo
9:16pm
Sammy Luo

but we should set a trap on andy if we don't kill him today, because we should kill him by tomorrow

though actually someone just proposed lynching him in the network forum
Anastasiya Bershanska
9:17pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

sure
Sammy Luo
9:17pm
Sammy Luo

poisons, still no idea

what do you think for poisons?
Anastasiya Bershanska
9:18pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

I do want to use them for hard to kill people, so I'll look at schedules and check whom I can catch outside of classes
Sammy Luo
9:18pm
Sammy Luo

ok

let me know
Anastasiya Bershanska
9:19pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Do we need to poison by the end of the day?
Sammy Luo
9:20pm
Sammy Luo

yeah, if we want them to die by the end of day 7

if we don't care, then no

but we really should poison sooner rather than later
Anastasiya Bershanska
9:20pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

ok

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2016 12:44 am 
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Sammy Luo

ideas?
Anastasiya Bershanska
4/19, 9:27pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

sashacf?
Sammy Luo
4/19, 9:28pm
Sammy Luo

seems reasonable. I'll confirm that with mods near day end.

oh, you can also kill maxmurin instead of ajliu if he shows up to pinkies, though I find this unlikely to happen because hall feed
Anastasiya Bershanska
4/19, 9:28pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Yeah

Who would be second person to kill?

*poison
Sammy Luo
4/19, 9:29pm
Sammy Luo

hmm

depends on who people decide to lynch
Anastasiya Bershanska
4/19, 9:29pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

But you would have time before the end of the day to send your decision to mods, right?
Sammy Luo
4/19, 9:29pm
Sammy Luo

yeah

how do you feel about Lucy? like, how bad is it if she becomes dictatorial for the next two days?

she doesn't have classes so maybe it's worth poisoning her

though 2 et people is a bit bad for appearances
Anastasiya Bershanska
4/19, 9:32pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

I know unsure emoticon
Sammy Luo
4/19, 9:33pm
Sammy Luo

hopefully they lynch one of jordan and brunner
Anastasiya Bershanska
4/19, 9:33pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

But she was another person I have been thinking about
Sammy Luo
4/19, 9:33pm
Sammy Luo

she = Lucy?
Anastasiya Bershanska
4/19, 9:33pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

We'll see
Sammy Luo
4/19, 9:33pm
Sammy Luo

yeah
Anastasiya Bershanska
4/19, 9:33pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Yeah
Anastasiya Bershanska
4/19, 9:54pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

I'm going to kill sashacf at squares
Sammy Luo
4/19, 9:54pm
Sammy Luo

!

Ok, if you think you can get it to work, go for it.

Frame another player who's there if you do

What's happening with pinkies?
Anastasiya Bershanska
4/19, 10:04pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Can I frame Lucy?
Sammy Luo
4/19, 10:05pm
Sammy Luo

That's too obvious I think, but do it if there are no better options
Anastasiya Bershanska
4/19, 10:05pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

No other options I think

At least my informer doesn't know them
Sammy Luo
4/19, 10:06pm
Sammy Luo

Ok, fair

Can you skip pinkies safely?
Anastasiya Bershanska
4/19, 10:06pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Yeah, I have hall meeting

I'm afraid I'm going to get tazed now
Sammy Luo
4/19, 10:07pm
Sammy Luo

Try not to be scared

You should be fine if you don't get seen before

They can only taze you if they know to do so 5 minutes before

Be prepared to chase them

And wear something to make yourself not recognizable (a hoodie?)

Get there a bit early in case they leave early

I think that's all the advice I know to give

Can you skip the meeting safely?

Hopefully Amanda and Andy won't notice?

Well, good luck
Anastasiya Bershanska
4/19, 10:11pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

It failed, they got spooked
Sammy Luo
4/19, 10:11pm
Sammy Luo

Oh

I'm sorry
Sammy Luo
4/19, 10:24pm
Sammy Luo

Lucy: "Sashacf was lured to their death. But they survived.

Np Hcope claims someone asked them to lead Sasha away from squares to make a kill but that the person failed to show up. Thought the network should know.

This makes us suspicious of csvoss because she would know hcope via SIPB and could if seen in W20 claim she was on her way to/from the SIPB office"
Sammy Luo
4/19, 10:37pm
Sammy Luo

Update?
Anastasiya Bershanska
4/19, 11:56pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

There were no people in Pinkies, I could not make a kill
Sammy Luo
4/19, 11:58pm
Sammy Luo

That's fine.

Thanks for trying - sorry I couldn't help

Read the den for new thoughts on plans

I think we should make one or two not ec kills tomorrow, then have me rampage the day after
Anastasiya Bershanska
4/20, 12:01am
Anastasiya Bershanska

Totally agree with that. That wolf also work with my general lever of hosage
Sammy Luo
4/20, 12:01am
Sammy Luo

Yeah
Anastasiya Bershanska
4/20, 12:01am
Anastasiya Bershanska

I'll look whom I can kill tomorrow (preferably in the infinite)
Sammy Luo
4/20, 12:03am
Sammy Luo

Ok

By the infinite you mean any main buildings in general probably?

Try to go for non ec people who are not poisoned
Anastasiya Bershanska
4/20, 12:14am
Anastasiya Bershanska

Yeah
Sammy Luo
4/20, 12:15am
Sammy Luo

So Miranda, Brunner, achester, *possibly* csvoss but preferably not because gn

Alex if you really need to but it's more efficient to just let me kill Andy on a rampage

Hopefully this rampage can coincide with getting petitions signed

So I have an excuse to kill jessk

Wow, the stalked people are our targets lol

Maybe I should've stalked you

Oh well.
Anastasiya Bershanska
4/20, 12:17am
Anastasiya Bershanska

Yeah, may be
Sammy Luo
4/20, 12:18am
Sammy Luo

Eh, I didn't think that one ahead well enough

It'll be fine
Anastasiya Bershanska
4/20, 12:19am
Anastasiya Bershanska

Like, we can claim a stalked was killed by the person they stalked and before they were notified that the person they stalked killed someone else
Sammy Luo
4/20, 12:20am
Sammy Luo

Ok, but the stalkers are me, ajliu and Lucy
Anastasiya Bershanska
4/20, 12:20am
Anastasiya Bershanska

I know unsure emoticon

We can have someone else stalk me on the day I go rampage - I'll just kill my stalker first
Sammy Luo
4/20, 12:21am
Sammy Luo

Sure

Lucy has stalked you before so it'd be ajliu. I can just kill her my day hopefully
Anastasiya Bershanska
4/20, 12:24am
Anastasiya Bershanska

OK
Sammy Luo
4/20, 12:26am
Sammy Luo

Also, I was serious about not reading forums, so I should probably stop chatting for now too. Talk to you tomorrow (or if you have important new plans)
Anastasiya Bershanska
4/20, 12:27am
Anastasiya Bershanska

Sure, I have been working now instead of reading forums too
Sammy Luo
4/20, 12:33am
Sammy Luo

Good plan!

Actually it might be worth getting rid of jessk early so that I don't risk not finding her on my day, if petitions don't work out
Sammy Luo
4/20, 1:51am
Sammy Luo

You should auto count the mafia before being impeached

Actually no, there's probably no need
Anastasiya Bershanska
4/20, 1:52am
Anastasiya Bershanska

If I count mafia, should I count one or two?

I think 2 would be most reasonable
Sammy Luo
4/20, 1:52am
Sammy Luo

Uh no don't actually do it

I meant secretly, to use up a charge, but if we get through two mayors we're probably screwed anyway
Anastasiya Bershanska
4/20, 1:53am
Anastasiya Bershanska

That's what I'm thinking, but I'll count two is if asked
Sammy Luo
4/20, 1:53am
Sammy Luo

So don't use the charge

Ok

Yeah two is better

But don't do it unless asked
Wednesday
Sammy Luo
4/20, 10:34am
Sammy Luo

I asked the mods if we could get NPS to give advice on kill planning and they said yes.

Pravinas offered to help you with advice - you should talk to her today if you get a chance.

Other people to ask include kmath, Shi-Ke, lzahray
Sammy Luo
4/20, 12:16pm
Sammy Luo

Have you talked to them / any ideas on plans?
Anastasiya Bershanska
4/20, 12:27pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

I think I'll kill brunnerj before his 18.212 class and then target achester (but I think he might be in an area I have no access to)

Could you please look at schedules and think of a person that I could frame for brunnerj or achester death? We need someone, who doesn't have classes/plans at 2pm or someone you might know location of

Also, do you know any NP that could help me with either of those kills?
Sammy Luo
4/20, 12:31pm
Sammy Luo

Maxmurin is also in 18.212, so be careful

Tuan has class before and after in 32 and 34, unfortunately. I'm not sure who else to frame.

Ltchin doesn't seem to have anything? But she's an ic. Maybe still worth framing though because of conscription risk

Also be careful because I have class nearish there and don't want to get accidentally suspected

But it should be fine

Um, NPS in 212 or 2-333a... The latter is unlikely

And achester is probably not going to leave his office for no reason, and will probably text if he sees you

NPS in 18.212 might exist, but again there's the problem of avoiding maxmurin. I guess you could kill both if seen? Preferably not because we want you uninvestigable

You should message Pravina Samaratunga with your current plans and get her feedback

Also Katie Mathison, Shi-Ke Xue, Lisa Zahray

They probably know better what is reasonable for planning a kill
Anastasiya Bershanska
4/20, 12:50pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Max probably doesn't attend 18.212. I was taking that class in the beginning of semester and 18.212 is awful. I'll message Pravina
Sammy Luo
4/20, 12:51pm
Sammy Luo

Oh really? I took it last spring and thought it was enjoyable. What makes you think Max probably doesn't attend?

Just make sure you recognize both of them so you don't accidentally kill one in front of the other

Also, message multiple people in case Pravina can't get back to you in time
Anastasiya Bershanska
4/20, 12:53pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

I we were in the same group for orientation, he would not go to class that he feels is not helpful, and I (as well as anyone else I talked to) don't think 18.212 lectures are good.
Sammy Luo
4/20, 12:55pm
Sammy Luo

Interesting. I feel like Max is the kind of person who would enjoy this kind of math though
Anastasiya Bershanska
4/20, 12:55pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Also, if all else fails, I still have a chance to target Miranda Gavrin before 6.UAT
Sammy Luo
4/20, 12:55pm
Sammy Luo

OK

Just don't get seen by Max

Let's say that a kill a Max is an auto trap, but a kill on brunnerj is a regular kill?

Oh Brunnerj just posted saying Lucy might take the petitions from him at 2pm

Be careful
Anastasiya Bershanska
4/20, 12:57pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

I'll try. I can also frame Lucy even if she claims not to come. But that might be too obvious.
Sammy Luo
4/20, 12:58pm
Sammy Luo

probably obvious, but worth a try

maybe

has pravinas responded?

how did you message her?

I can poke her on facebook if you want
Anastasiya Bershanska
4/20, 1:00pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

I can't find Shi-Ke Xue, but I messaged everyone else
Sammy Luo
4/20, 1:00pm
Sammy Luo

on facebook or mafia?
Anastasiya Bershanska
4/20, 1:00pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Facebook
Sammy Luo
4/20, 1:00pm
Sammy Luo

ok

are you friends with them?

if not I can poke them so they see your message easier
Anastasiya Bershanska
4/20, 1:00pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

No, but even if we are not friends they will see my messages

Poke them please

I sent them friend requests
Sammy Luo
4/20, 1:03pm
Sammy Luo

poked
Sammy Luo
4/20, 1:22pm
Sammy Luo

also see achester's schedule update

he's now in 32-G5 until 3pm
Anastasiya Bershanska
4/20, 1:23pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Apparently, max goes to class, so I might not be able to kill josh
Sammy Luo
4/20, 1:23pm
Sammy Luo

frown emoticon

that's alright, stay safe
Anastasiya Bershanska
4/20, 1:24pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

May be, if Max does not notice me, people would suspect him
Sammy Luo
4/20, 1:25pm
Sammy Luo

but that's risky. we want a safe kill today
Anastasiya Bershanska
4/20, 1:25pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

I'll see

Is there no way you could try to kill?
Sammy Luo
4/20, 1:25pm
Sammy Luo

I guess you could kill both and frame someone for the non-don kill

um, we don't want me to get caught before I start the rampage

but if I come across someone randomly in a place not associated with me, I can try
Anastasiya Bershanska
4/20, 1:26pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

ok
Sammy Luo
4/20, 1:26pm
Sammy Luo

I think it's safer for you to make a safe don kill though

killing an EC person is better than killing no one

(also I'm heading to a meeting now)
Anastasiya Bershanska
4/20, 1:27pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

is there more information than just 32-G5? Because 5th floor might have lots of places to look for a person
Sammy Luo
4/20, 1:29pm
Sammy Luo

The lounge
Anastasiya Bershanska
4/20, 1:30pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Do you know that place?
Sammy Luo
4/20, 1:33pm
Sammy Luo

No, not really

Pravina might?

Kmath has been talking to you?
Anastasiya Bershanska
4/20, 1:41pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

I'm talking to both of them now
Sammy Luo
4/20, 1:49pm
Sammy Luo

Update on plans?
Anastasiya Bershanska
4/20, 2:03pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Jgrazian just died in 4-1 hallway
Sammy Luo
4/20, 2:03pm
Sammy Luo

Who?
Anastasiya Bershanska
4/20, 2:04pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Brunnerj
Sammy Luo
4/20, 2:04pm
Sammy Luo

Will you frame someone?

Nice
Anastasiya Bershanska
4/20, 2:04pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

I misspoke because was thinking about something else

Yeah, I want to frame max if he comes to class
Sammy Luo
4/20, 2:05pm
Sammy Luo

But you should leave the area

And have an alibi
Anastasiya Bershanska
4/20, 2:05pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

I can now go try to make another kill, or would it be safer to stay in PCR

I'm in PCR now
Sammy Luo
4/20, 2:06pm
Sammy Luo

Idk
Anastasiya Bershanska
4/20, 2:06pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

I don't think anyone is a player here though
Sammy Luo
4/20, 2:06pm
Sammy Luo

Ok

You have to frame when reporting the kill
Anastasiya Bershanska
4/20, 2:06pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Just tell gods Brunnerj is dead

Yeah, frame max
Sammy Luo
4/20, 2:06pm
Sammy Luo

So just frame Max or Lucy

Ok

Me do it? Ok
Anastasiya Bershanska
4/20, 2:07pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Or ma by better Lucy
Sammy Luo
4/20, 2:07pm
Sammy Luo

Ooh both? Or is that a waste?
Anastasiya Bershanska
4/20, 2:07pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

That would be a waste

I'm not sure if even one frame is a waste
Sammy Luo
4/20, 2:07pm
Sammy Luo

But then they're more likely to believe one of them

Idk

Ask the NPS you're talking to?
Anastasiya Bershanska
4/20, 2:08pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Because we might need them for you
Sammy Luo
4/20, 2:08pm
Sammy Luo

No, I'm just going to kill everyone and get lynched, it's ok

But if you want to save them, sure
Anastasiya Bershanska
4/20, 2:08pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Hm
Sammy Luo
4/20, 2:09pm
Sammy Luo

Ask your NPS?
Anastasiya Bershanska
4/20, 2:09pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

I'll frame Lucy just cause she seems more active
Sammy Luo
4/20, 2:11pm
Sammy Luo

Ok

That's unlikely to work, but that's fine. You're framing or me?
Anastasiya Bershanska
4/20, 2:11pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Ok, I reported
Sammy Luo
4/20, 2:11pm
Sammy Luo

Ok

Good job smile emoticon
Anastasiya Bershanska
4/20, 2:11pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Wait, whom did you want to frame?
Sammy Luo
4/20, 2:12pm
Sammy Luo

No
Anastasiya Bershanska
4/20, 2:12pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Tuan?
Sammy Luo
4/20, 2:12pm
Sammy Luo

No, I'm just saying any frame is unlikely to work
Anastasiya Bershanska
4/20, 2:12pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

I can change before gods respond
Sammy Luo
4/20, 2:12pm
Sammy Luo

But it's ok
Anastasiya Bershanska
4/20, 2:12pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Oh, I know unsure emoticon
Sammy Luo
4/20, 2:12pm
Sammy Luo

Don't change it

Well be fine

Also, I have class now oops

Talk to you later

Don't post alibi too soon

Etc. Ask NPS for advice here about how to react
Wednesday
Sammy Luo
4/20, 6:47pm
Sammy Luo

see den for a shortish post I wrote with some questions to think about
Sammy Luo
4/20, 7:16pm
Sammy Luo

I really do have to get work done today, so we should briefly discuss anything we need to do before I stop checking mafia things for a while
Anastasiya Bershanska
4/20, 7:18pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

I'll plan what kills I can make tomorrow a bit later and then lets discuss at 10pm
Sammy Luo
4/20, 7:18pm
Sammy Luo

OK. Wait, if I'm planning on rampaging tomorrow, you don't necessarily need to make kills, though I guess it doesn't hurt to plan

I'm not sure how much of EC I'll actually be able to find and kill in time tomorrow
Anastasiya Bershanska
4/20, 7:19pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

I want to plan just in case you would be seen and your rampage would be broken
Sammy Luo
4/20, 7:19pm
Sammy Luo

yeah

do I do it near day start or near day end?

I don't want to give the GNs time to kill me

but I don't know how reliably people are around EC before day end

and I'm really too busy to check right now
Anastasiya Bershanska
4/20, 7:20pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Also, we might want to make you protect someone, who you are not going to kill tomorrow, so people would think that that person conscripted you
Sammy Luo
4/20, 7:20pm
Sammy Luo

hmm, ok

but Lucy is going to count mafia today
Anastasiya Bershanska
4/20, 7:20pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

I think you want to do that during classes - people are too busy to check mafia updates
Sammy Luo
4/20, 7:21pm
Sammy Luo

but it's easier to do it in 15 minutes if it's all in EC
Anastasiya Bershanska
4/20, 7:21pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

I could have killed another person today before they would have even noticed
Sammy Luo
4/20, 7:21pm
Sammy Luo

hmm
Anastasiya Bershanska
4/20, 7:22pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Yeah, but you could have been conscripted just now
Sammy Luo
4/20, 7:22pm
Sammy Luo

true
Anastasiya Bershanska
4/20, 7:22pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Think of whom you might want to set up as another mafia and be around that person, so that people would know about your interaction.
Sammy Luo
4/20, 7:22pm
Sammy Luo

achester has concluded that the only possible original mafia are {maxmurin, Miranda Gavrin, nastya, nguyenin}

but that's assuming I'm good
Anastasiya Bershanska
4/20, 7:23pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

That's good

then may be hang out with max?
Sammy Luo
4/20, 7:23pm
Sammy Luo

hmm?

oh, hmm

idk

yeah, either max or tuan

it depends on who gets lynched tonight
Anastasiya Bershanska
4/20, 7:24pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Yeah
Sammy Luo
4/20, 7:25pm
Sammy Luo

shrug, maybe we can talk to nps who know more about kill planning afterwards

also, see my post in den - we should decide if we want to set another trap today to use tomorrow

if we do we get 1 extra kill, but it means one of andytsai and this new person has to be our second kill

we can discuss later, time to work for now
Sammy Luo
4/20, 10:09pm
Sammy Luo

discussion?

network proposes having amanda stalk you for tomorrow

which would mean I have to kill her before you make any kills
Anastasiya Bershanska
4/20, 10:13pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Or I kill her, but yeah
Sammy Luo
4/20, 10:14pm
Sammy Luo

yeah, but that looks sketchy
Anastasiya Bershanska
4/20, 10:14pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Would that be a problem?

I know

Would killing her be a problem for you?
Sammy Luo
4/20, 10:15pm
Sammy Luo

no, hopefully not

since I'm planning to rampage tomorrow anyway
Anastasiya Bershanska
4/20, 10:16pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

ok

There doesn't seem to be consensus on who should be killed, so I'm thinking about voting for Miranda. Any objections

*?
Sammy Luo
4/20, 10:17pm
Sammy Luo

I do think Miranda is the more ideal lynch

but you should vote whatever network decides

which hasn't been decided. If they don't decide by 10:30 I'll decide for them.

Also, note that once I commit to rampaging, game will only last 2 more days either way

so we should think hard before committing

however, achester proposes lynching through the list of 4 people, so if we don't do this soon, we're screwed anyway

and I really just want to get game over with

so I think we should just commit to rampaging?
Anastasiya Bershanska
4/20, 10:20pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Yeah, I honestly don't have time for the game. I really want it to end, so I think rampage would be an optimal strategy.

We should kill as many people from the network as possible, leaving suspects untouched.
Sammy Luo
4/20, 10:21pm
Sammy Luo

I don't think I can access achester
Anastasiya Bershanska
4/20, 10:21pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Hm, Idk
Sammy Luo
4/20, 10:21pm
Sammy Luo

we want to make all the kills quickly enough that no one tases me before we're done
Anastasiya Bershanska
4/20, 10:21pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

I'll see if I can kill him

I know
Sammy Luo
4/20, 10:22pm
Sammy Luo

do we want to set a trap today? this commits us to killing one of andytsai, someone else for our second or first kill

which depending on people's locations might be bad

but might also be good?

in that it gives us an extra kill

but maybe I don't need to make that many kills tomorrow

also, should we slaughter one of ltchin, achester? this commits us to killing them before the other
Anastasiya Bershanska
4/20, 10:24pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

no, try to make as many kills as possible and I can try to assist you
Sammy Luo
4/20, 10:24pm
Sammy Luo

but lets us potentially kill both in one day
Anastasiya Bershanska
4/20, 10:24pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

did you look at schedules to figure out when you can get people?
Sammy Luo
4/20, 10:24pm
Sammy Luo

no, not really, I've been trying to work xP

I was thinking either near day start or near day end
Anastasiya Bershanska
4/20, 10:25pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

ok, then look whom you can kill - make plans to find people between their classes
Sammy Luo
4/20, 10:25pm
Sammy Luo

like, in EC

oh

hmm
Anastasiya Bershanska
4/20, 10:25pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Oh, in EC?

People would instantly get worried and start running away

Bcause they can inform each other even if just one person reads forum
Sammy Luo
4/20, 10:26pm
Sammy Luo

I mean, I can't make too many between class kills before people know there's a breach
Anastasiya Bershanska
4/20, 10:26pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Or are you going to do it in like 15 min?
Sammy Luo
4/20, 10:26pm
Sammy Luo

yeah, that was the plan

idk how feasible
Anastasiya Bershanska
4/20, 10:26pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Do you know how many people would be in EC?
Sammy Luo
4/20, 10:26pm
Sammy Luo

no clue

I wish everyone...
Anastasiya Bershanska
4/20, 10:27pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

And how many of them would you be able to find?

Then look at schedules
Sammy Luo
4/20, 10:29pm
Sammy Luo

well, people usually don't have night things on their schedule

idk...

like, I think if I kill 2 people during the day I'll get tased

so I need to blitz

my plan was to go around with a petition to impeach nguyenin

after getting permission from the network

but maybe this is hard to get right

sigh, idk

and kill people right after they sign

I really need to kill jessk and andytsai, and hopefully ltchin
Anastasiya Bershanska
4/20, 10:31pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

That's a funny plan and you should do that, I like it. This guarantees your death, but whatever
Sammy Luo
4/20, 10:31pm
Sammy Luo

yeah I know

everyone else is interchangeable

are you on beast?
Anastasiya Bershanska
4/20, 10:32pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Ok, then make sure you can kill them. I'm sure they would be willing to sign the paper. Also, I'll try to kill achester during the day - I think he is a more important target

Yeah
Sammy Luo
4/20, 10:32pm
Sammy Luo

wait, but you can't kill achester until ajliu is dead
Anastasiya Bershanska
4/20, 10:32pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Oh, right
Sammy Luo
4/20, 10:32pm
Sammy Luo

(yikes, you suggesting miranda on the thread might be a bit sketchy because it correlates you with me, but oh well)
Anastasiya Bershanska
4/20, 10:32pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

That's unfortunate

Yeah, or you can say that you agree with my points or whatever

I wrote that, so if I don't update my vote later, it would not look weird that I voted for her
Sammy Luo
4/20, 10:33pm
Sammy Luo

ok

do I slaughter ltchin?
Anastasiya Bershanska
4/20, 10:34pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

sure
Sammy Luo
4/20, 10:39pm
Sammy Luo

so we do want to kill her before achester?

also, who do we trap?

if anyone

OK, reason for doing it near day end is so Alex / csvoss don't have a chance to kill me during the day

We need to decide before day end

if you don't have any ideas I guess I'll just go with ajliu
Anastasiya Bershanska
4/20, 10:48pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

go for her if you think she is easier to kill
Sammy Luo
4/20, 10:48pm
Sammy Luo

I don't know

anyone you would suggest trapping instead?
Anastasiya Bershanska
4/20, 10:48pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

no

it's your rampage, you do what you want smile emoticon
Sammy Luo
4/20, 10:49pm
Sammy Luo

but what if I don't find either her or andy?

also, day start or day end?

day start = more likely they're all in EC, day end = less likely csvoss or Alex will kill me
Anastasiya Bershanska
4/20, 10:49pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

And then the day after I'll go on a rampage. That wouldn't help us win, but it would make game fun

then go with day start
Sammy Luo
4/20, 10:50pm
Sammy Luo

why? if csvoss or alex kills me they'll just lynch you probably
Anastasiya Bershanska
4/20, 10:50pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

or whatever you find more useful
Sammy Luo
4/20, 10:50pm
Sammy Luo

idk
Anastasiya Bershanska
4/20, 10:50pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

then do the day end, you do what you want. I don't care, I'll just work with what is left.
Sammy Luo
4/20, 10:50pm
Sammy Luo

OK... no clue

but I should set a trap on ajliu, and a slaughter on ltchin?

I'm really scared of making the wrong decision. But I should remember it's just a game
Anastasiya Bershanska
4/20, 10:51pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

sure

do you need to set a trap a day before?
Sammy Luo
4/20, 10:52pm
Sammy Luo

not necessarily, but we can only set one trap per day

so if I set it on ajliu we can set a new one tomorrow after we kill one of ajliu, andytsai

but I don't think I'm going to need *that* many kills
Anastasiya Bershanska
4/20, 10:52pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Sure
Sammy Luo
4/20, 10:53pm
Sammy Luo

right now I can kill on ltchin, andytsai, jessk, and one other (probably ajliu)

if I set a trap, I can also kill tuan (for his taser)

but that makes it more likely you'll get lynched
Anastasiya Bershanska
4/20, 10:53pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Ok

And then give taser to me, in case I need it later
Sammy Luo
4/20, 10:54pm
Sammy Luo

yeah

so I should trap?

assuming miranda is lynched we could actually kill everyone in game who's not dying tomorrow if we wanted to expose ourselves tongue emoticon

OK, I hope this works out...

I really can't decide day start or day end frown emoticon

can you safely check whether ajliu, andytsai are around?

oh if I have the taser you can also claim I tased you if you're asked to vig kill me at some point
Sammy Luo
4/20, 11:17pm
Sammy Luo

hopefully ajliu forgot to stalk you?

if so don't claim you were stalked

ok, NPs suggest day end
Anastasiya Bershanska
4/20, 11:29pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

ok
Sammy Luo
4/20, 11:29pm
Sammy Luo

but kmath says if no kills are made early on and I publicly announce I'm going to go around EC, the network might get someone to taze me

but I'm really scared people will just run away if I show up for no reason
Anastasiya Bershanska
4/20, 11:30pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

true, but then I guess I'll go on a rampage

or kill during the day
Sammy Luo
4/20, 11:30pm
Sammy Luo

wait, am I doing this near day end or day start?

I guess making a kill during the day would be reasonable

the fact that we've trapped ajliu and andy makes it hard to get that to work though

well, I guess one works

this is really stressful to plan...

we really need to make sure I get to kill jessk and andytsai tomorrow, that's the most important thing

you could actually kill everyone else in one day if you wanted, I think
Anastasiya Bershanska
4/20, 11:44pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

That's what I'm thinking about
Sammy Luo
4/20, 11:45pm
Sammy Luo

I guess csvoss instead of andytsai works too, if timing for that works better

you're not being stalked, right?

I guess not kamikazing might even be an option if the kills on GNs could be done safely enough, but that's hard

also, you're the only possible starting mafia not being stalked

so you shouldn't make kills that are obviously you

maybe don't write that you were not stalked

just pretend you didn't notice?
Anastasiya Bershanska
12:00am
Anastasiya Bershanska

yeah, I just would pretend I don't read all the forums because I actually don't read all of the,
Sammy Luo
12:00am
Sammy Luo

haha
Sammy Luo
12:23am
Sammy Luo

oops amanda is busy 7pm-11:15 tomorrow...
Sammy Luo
12:37am
Sammy Luo

actually, it might be fine if you kill jessk, since csvoss is quite inactive

but that's suboptimal because you'll be suspected for being not stalked

so I think I should just do the kamikazing

I just talked to all the NPs

and have some idea of what I'm doing, but not a lot. I hope this doesn't end too badly.
Today
Sammy Luo
11:07am
Sammy Luo

Good morning

I just realized we could both kamikaze today and still win by picking target order correctly

Also, achester remembered that you're vigilante and plans to tell you to kill maxmurin. So I think we actually should just kill all the ec players plus achester whenever possible (in the right order - ltchin before achester, etc.)

If you see ajliu and Andy together at some point, maybe you should kill them both and then just start rampaging? We should discuss this more before committing to it though

But I do think given network plans to vig test and Lynch you, we should both kamikaze

Ok yeah, I think you should start the kami by killing ajliu and Andy at once, then I can kill Max

Er sorry, I can kill csvoss in class

Instead of jessk

But discuss and confirm first
Sammy Luo
11:30am
Sammy Luo

Killing jessk is better because csvoss is less active and farther away
Sammy Luo
11:35am
Sammy Luo

Actually, if achester is killed we can probably get through things much easier / longer because everyone else is not active

Too bad we trapped ltchin first frown emoticon
Sammy Luo
12:04pm
Sammy Luo

If you would rather not put everything into trying to kill everyone today, perhaps it's safer to just kill achester (and the gns?) and let other things happen.
Sammy Luo
12:59pm
Sammy Luo

We should decide soon so I know whether to kill csvoss after class...
Sammy Luo
1:17pm
Sammy Luo

JK she's not in class today
Sammy Luo
1:38pm
Sammy Luo

She is

But not sure I should do it

I'll wait for your decision whether to both kamikaze today
Anastasiya Bershanska
2:12pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Sorry, I just woke up

Is it too late to satrt?

*start
Sammy Luo
2:12pm
Sammy Luo

No
Anastasiya Bershanska
2:13pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Also, I don't think either Andy or Amanda is on hall
Sammy Luo
2:13pm
Sammy Luo

Ok
Anastasiya Bershanska
2:13pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

I have a class for next 1.5h
Sammy Luo
2:13pm
Sammy Luo

Do you think they will be at some point?

That's fine
Anastasiya Bershanska
2:13pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Andy comes back only at night

Amanda should be on hall later today
Sammy Luo
2:13pm
Sammy Luo

How late should Andy come back?
Anastasiya Bershanska
2:14pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Idk, he is never consistent
Sammy Luo
2:14pm
Sammy Luo

Ok...

Once you make the first obvious kill you can't expect to find anyone else for sure, so I'm not sure what we should do

Or, once the first obvious kill is posted
Anastasiya Bershanska
2:15pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

I'll look at people's schedule and check what people are doing today
Sammy Luo
2:15pm
Sammy Luo

Ok
Anastasiya Bershanska
2:15pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

I'll see when I can catch them
Sammy Luo
2:15pm
Sammy Luo

Should I kill csvoss right after our class? It'll be really obvious

But if we can't guarantee finding jessk maybe it's worth?

Idk...
Anastasiya Bershanska
2:16pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

does your class end at 3?
Sammy Luo
2:16pm
Sammy Luo

2:30

We will indeed need to do everything today because achester plans to tell you to vig kill someone near day end
Anastasiya Bershanska
2:19pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

ok, can you get achester? or should I try to get him?
Sammy Luo
2:21pm
Sammy Luo

Idk

I think you getting him would be better

But note that killing achester before ltchin commits us to not killing everyone today

Honestly I think this is basically game end. We have a theoretical provable win if we find the right people, a provable loss if we don't, and the result doesn't really matter as much I guess

So we should just go for whatever we can.

We should confirm that we're committing to kamikaze though so that I know to kill players I see rather than paranoia text about them
Anastasiya Bershanska
2:25pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

ok, let's do it

You can catch jessk between 6.824 TR1-2:30 in 54-100 and 24.918 TR2:30-4 in 32D-769
Sammy Luo
2:27pm
Sammy Luo

class just ended for me
Anastasiya Bershanska
2:27pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

go grin emoticon
Sammy Luo
2:27pm
Sammy Luo

Scared of being seen frown emoticon

Ok

Where should I try to catch her?
Anastasiya Bershanska
2:30pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

on the way from one location to ths eother

go to 54-100

Idk if you would be able to catch her
Sammy Luo
2:31pm
Sammy Luo

She's probably already left?

Idk
Anastasiya Bershanska
2:31pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Just try in case class runs over, but yeah, you have to be fast

Also, tell me whom you have killed if you do kill someone
Sammy Luo
2:32pm
Sammy Luo

Ok

Which players should I kill on sight?
Anastasiya Bershanska
2:32pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

whomever you think you can find
Sammy Luo
2:32pm
Sammy Luo

Ok

Even max and Tuan?

Oops, should have just done this last night
Anastasiya Bershanska
2:34pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

achester doesn't seem to have anything on Thirsday
Sammy Luo
2:34pm
Sammy Luo

Ok, I didn't pass her, so I'm guessing she's already in stata
Anastasiya Bershanska
2:34pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

*Thursday
Sammy Luo
2:34pm
Sammy Luo

unsure emoticon

You're not stalked, right?
Anastasiya Bershanska
2:35pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

no
Sammy Luo
2:35pm
Sammy Luo

Ok
Anastasiya Bershanska
2:35pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

did you kill csvoss?
Sammy Luo
2:35pm
Sammy Luo

But people will think you are until they look carefully

No
Anastasiya Bershanska
2:35pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

did you kill anyone?
Sammy Luo
2:36pm
Sammy Luo

Not yet
Anastasiya Bershanska
2:36pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

If you want, I can go rampage instead and you can kill whomever is left
Sammy Luo
2:36pm
Sammy Luo

I mean, we both have to rampage today

Because either of us rampaging implicates you

Er, me

And achester intends to have you lynched

I guess we could do the thing where you rampage and I blame achester for the breach

But I think it's better for us both to just kill everyone we can

But we need to time it so that the most important people to kill are dead before people start being wary

Which is why day start would've been ideal if I'd known what I was doing
Anastasiya Bershanska
2:38pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Idk, whom do you want to kill first?
Sammy Luo
2:38pm
Sammy Luo

One of the gns

And then ajliu or Andy if Andy was not the gn we killed first

Because we have traps on them

Ltchin can come anywhere

Before we kill the gns I should not for example kill Max on floorpi
Anastasiya Bershanska
2:42pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

I'm putting when&where people are on the document, you can check it for reference (I'm putting times when I would be able to kill)
Sammy Luo
2:42pm
Sammy Luo

Ok
Anastasiya Bershanska
2:45pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Amanda and Andy might be on Beast now
Sammy Luo
2:45pm
Sammy Luo

Should I kill them if so? They'll probably paranoia text if it's me

Whereas you could catch them without text
Anastasiya Bershanska
2:48pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

yeah, I'll kill them when I get out of class

whom will you try to kill now?
Sammy Luo
2:48pm
Sammy Luo

Ok, good luck smile emoticon

Let me see

I can only make one kill if it's not Andy or ajliu or ltchin
Anastasiya Bershanska
2:49pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Do you want to kill maxmurin after 9.00 TR2-3.30 in 32-123?

And you can kill Itchin in addition to that one kill? Or you need to kill him first?
Sammy Luo
2:50pm
Sammy Luo

In addition works
Anastasiya Bershanska
2:50pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Try to kill ltchin?
Sammy Luo
2:50pm
Sammy Luo

Where?

(I'm getting pretty stressed by thinking about this kill planning - I think this is why I wanted to just do a string of blatant kills I didn't have to think about

But that's ok)
Anastasiya Bershanska
2:52pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Idk, may be text mods to poke ltchin, achester, Miranda Gavrin?
Sammy Luo
2:52pm
Sammy Luo

Miranda is dead
Anastasiya Bershanska
2:52pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

oh, I forgot
Sammy Luo
2:53pm
Sammy Luo

And mods already had a fight with ltchin so I'd rather not do that

Fight over schedule updates
Anastasiya Bershanska
2:53pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

oh, ok

are you going to try to kill maxmurin?
Sammy Luo
2:56pm
Sammy Luo

thinking about it

so maxmurin can be a relatively reliable late-day kill for me after we've killed a bunch of other people

I think me saying this is very much a result of feeling stressed about attempting secretive in person kills, though, so take it with a grain of salt unsure emoticon

what are the numbers?

oh ordering, ok
Anastasiya Bershanska
3:01pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

yeah, those are just order of when we have a chance to kill them
Sammy Luo
3:01pm
Sammy Luo

ok

Lucy has taser 3

(from dgrazian)
Anastasiya Bershanska
3:02pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

do you want to target her?
Sammy Luo
3:02pm
Sammy Luo

no, she's poisoned

just noting

but she PMed me this so I probably have to tell the network to avoid being suspicious?

idk

how much we care about being suspicious at this point
Anastasiya Bershanska
3:03pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

not really, if we are going to make many kills
Sammy Luo
3:04pm
Sammy Luo

ok
Anastasiya Bershanska
3:04pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

but you can also kill her if you want
Sammy Luo
3:04pm
Sammy Luo

not really

we can't afford to make kills we don't need to make
Anastasiya Bershanska
3:05pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Are you going to kill maxmurin? I'm asking because soon you will have a really good opportunity
Sammy Luo
3:05pm
Sammy Luo

should I?

how confident are you that andy and ajliu will be on beats?

*beast
Anastasiya Bershanska
3:05pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

do whatever you want, I'll try to kill ajliu and andytsai
Sammy Luo
3:06pm
Sammy Luo

ok
Anastasiya Bershanska
3:06pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

I'll check if they are on Bast

*Beast

Then I'll try to kill jessk
Sammy Luo
3:06pm
Sammy Luo

sounds good

I'll kill maxmurin if I bump into him
Anastasiya Bershanska
3:07pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

ok, just message me
Sammy Luo
3:07pm
Sammy Luo

I feel like I bump into him randomly enough that it's more secure just to count on that than actually wait outside his classroom (because then if he sees me I can't really make more rampage kills)

ok

what do we do about the vig test then?
Anastasiya Bershanska
3:07pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

my class just ended, I can try to kill max too
Sammy Luo
3:07pm
Sammy Luo

oh haha

do we just ignore the instructions, or do you want to pretend to vig-kill him?

(or tuan)

OK, I'll kill any non-dying player I see on not floorpi

but I'll not do too much planning beforehand or I'll just end up being anxious and paralyzed. Casualness probably helps make things work.
Anastasiya Bershanska
3:13pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

neither of them is on beast
Sammy Luo
3:13pm
Sammy Luo

frown emoticon
Anastasiya Bershanska
3:15pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

How does Miranda Gavring look ike?

*like
Sammy Luo
3:15pm
Sammy Luo

she's dead
Anastasiya Bershanska
3:15pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Oh, crap. I forget

I'll then try to kill max in 32?
Sammy Luo
3:17pm
Sammy Luo

are you going to claim it's a vig kill if asked?
Anastasiya Bershanska
3:17pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

no, because I dodn't know that the network wanted me to kill him

*didn't
Sammy Luo
3:17pm
Sammy Luo

right

but we'll need to kill off the GNs before you're suspected

what if the network asks if I told you to vig kill him?
Anastasiya Bershanska
3:18pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

wouldn't tht make you suspicious?
Sammy Luo
3:18pm
Sammy Luo

right
Anastasiya Bershanska
3:18pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Anyway, I'm going to State now

*Stata
Sammy Luo
3:19pm
Sammy Luo

OK. well, the network didn't decide on a time to tell you, so maybe I thought I should just tell you

but, probably not

good luck, though note that this kill locks us into doing all our kills by today
Anastasiya Bershanska
3:24pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

I know
Sammy Luo
3:25pm
Sammy Luo

If I don't make any obvious kills I could try to get achester lynched
Anastasiya Bershanska
3:25pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

I'm near 32-123, will report when kill max
Sammy Luo
3:25pm
Sammy Luo

ok

good luck
Anastasiya Bershanska
3:25pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Hopefully, he attends the lecture
Sammy Luo
3:25pm
Sammy Luo

I think he does
Anastasiya Bershanska
3:26pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Why didn't you kill earlier today?
Sammy Luo
3:26pm
Sammy Luo

why didn't I kill max?
Anastasiya Bershanska
3:27pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Idk, someone in your claa
Sammy Luo
3:27pm
Sammy Luo

darn max is on hall
Anastasiya Bershanska
3:27pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

ok, then I'm going back to BEast
Sammy Luo
3:27pm
Sammy Luo

OK
Anastasiya Bershanska
3:27pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

*Beast
Sammy Luo
3:27pm
Sammy Luo

because I didn't want to leave time for people to suspect and tase me
Anastasiya Bershanska
3:27pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

tell me when he would go out, I can catch him off hall
Sammy Luo
3:28pm
Sammy Luo

/ for lucy and alex to be added to the network

ok

I was thinking of the rampage as a 15-minute thing, I guess, so didn't feel safe starting it unless we were sure we could get everyone. probably this was a mistake frown emoticon
Anastasiya Bershanska
3:29pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

I can stay in Stata to kill jessk, Idk of Amanda and Andy returned on hall
Sammy Luo
3:30pm
Sammy Luo

sure, that seems reasonable

do you think we should try to actually win? if so I think this means getting achester lynched today, which probably requires me not actually making kills...
Anastasiya Bershanska
3:30pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

hm, you can try that
Sammy Luo
3:31pm
Sammy Luo

I'm not sure if it's worth it though

if I don't make any kills, given achester isn't around we can only make 5 kills today instead of 7 tongue emoticon
Anastasiya Bershanska
3:31pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Yeah, happens. I'll probably still try to kill jessk
Sammy Luo
3:32pm
Sammy Luo

OK

good luck
Anastasiya Bershanska
3:32pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

and then Alex

because both are in Stata
Sammy Luo
3:32pm
Sammy Luo

oh wait you can't do that
Anastasiya Bershanska
3:32pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

why?
Sammy Luo
3:32pm
Sammy Luo

you can't kill both because we have our traps set on ajliu and andy
Anastasiya Bershanska
3:32pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

I can use charges
Sammy Luo
3:32pm
Sammy Luo

we need to kill one of them before we can use another charge
Anastasiya Bershanska
3:33pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

sad, ok. I'll go back to Beast and see if they are there
Sammy Luo
3:33pm
Sammy Luo

after jessk?
Anastasiya Bershanska
3:33pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Or you could get some NP to check where Amanda and Andy are
Sammy Luo
3:33pm
Sammy Luo

hmm, who would be a good choice?

that would not implicate either of us?
Anastasiya Bershanska
3:33pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

could you please do that?
Sammy Luo
3:34pm
Sammy Luo

yeah. who on beast would other people know who'd be willing to help?

Elena?
Anastasiya Bershanska
3:34pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

She is not there right now
Sammy Luo
3:34pm
Sammy Luo

sorry ellena

who is there?
Anastasiya Bershanska
3:34pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Yeah, she is not there

I'm asking Marta where she is now, because she can come to Beast and pretend she was looking for me
Sammy Luo
3:35pm
Sammy Luo

OK, anything I can help with?
Anastasiya Bershanska
3:35pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

If she doesn't respond within a few minutes, she is busy in class

Yeah, you can find an NP, who could come to Beast and check for Amanda and Andy

Don't rely on me doing everything
Sammy Luo
3:36pm
Sammy Luo

OK
Anastasiya Bershanska
3:37pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

I'm talking to two NPs I can trust

But neither of them responds now

Most likely, in class frown emoticon
Sammy Luo
3:37pm
Sammy Luo

frown emoticon

I don't know many NPS on beast
Anastasiya Bershanska
3:37pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Just message them
Sammy Luo
3:38pm
Sammy Luo

I'll look for floorpi people who could look for Amanda

Can you give me a list of beast np names?
Anastasiya Bershanska
3:38pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

I messaged another person on Beast, you should try to message NPs that are not on Beast
Sammy Luo
3:38pm
Sammy Luo

Ok
Anastasiya Bershanska
3:40pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Oh, I have response
Sammy Luo
3:40pm
Sammy Luo

oh cool
Anastasiya Bershanska
3:40pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Andy is on Beast

Amanda is probably not
Sammy Luo
3:40pm
Sammy Luo

OK

should I try to kill andy? or should you do it after jessk?

if I kill him both of us are vulnerable to GNs which is perhaps bad

but if alex can't get onto campus in time it's fine

well no, alex can still investigate
Anastasiya Bershanska
3:42pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

You can kill andy in his room. Go through tunnel, come to beast through walcot entrance (side of the tunnel) and go down the hall. Andy is in his room - room on the right right near walounge, noone is there
Sammy Luo
3:42pm
Sammy Luo

But Alex can investigate me

is that fine?

I could also just go directly without the tunnel, right?
Anastasiya Bershanska
3:43pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

But I'm going to kill him at 4
Sammy Luo
3:43pm
Sammy Luo

oh wait we're killing both andy and alex?
Anastasiya Bershanska
3:43pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Yeah, but there are people outside. Scott might screw you just cause he can

why not?
Sammy Luo
3:43pm
Sammy Luo

that means we provably can't get everyone dead

because we wanted alex to just die of heartbreak
Anastasiya Bershanska
3:44pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

No, we can use a charge on him, right?

we can use charges more than once a day, right?
Sammy Luo
3:44pm
Sammy Luo

we can set one trap per day

so we have exactly enough kills to kill everyone except Alex and csvoss

and let them die of heartbreak
Anastasiya Bershanska
3:45pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

if no, then I'll kill just people in 32
Sammy Luo
3:45pm
Sammy Luo

but again, we don't have to play perfectly

ok, I'll go kill andy then
Anastasiya Bershanska
3:45pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

It's ok

NO, let me see if I can kill Alex first
Sammy Luo
3:45pm
Sammy Luo

wait, you can't kill both jessk and alex, remember
Anastasiya Bershanska
3:45pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Oh, no. Yeah, you have to kill Andy
Sammy Luo
3:45pm
Sammy Luo

yeah
Anastasiya Bershanska
3:45pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Sorry

Go kill Andy
Sammy Luo
3:46pm
Sammy Luo

or you can kill jessk, come back and kill andy

so that both GNs can only target you
Anastasiya Bershanska
3:46pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

He was a poor choice, but I was too lazy to make any plans yesterday, so its ok

sure

I'll do that
Sammy Luo
3:46pm
Sammy Luo

ok, cool

sorry that I'm only doing the talking and not the actual killing frown emoticon

good luck with jessk
Anastasiya Bershanska
3:47pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

I can actually kill him now and then return to Stata to kill jessk
Sammy Luo
3:47pm
Sammy Luo

do you think there's time?
Anastasiya Bershanska
3:47pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

I probably don't have time, unless I run
Sammy Luo
3:47pm
Sammy Luo

I feel like the timing is a bit risky

you should just kill jessk first

andy is probably more accessible

for later
Anastasiya Bershanska
3:48pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

true and longer I talk, worse the timing
Sammy Luo
3:48pm
Sammy Luo

I think you should just wait for jessk

less rush/panic = more success
Anastasiya Bershanska
3:48pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

That's what I'm doing now, do you know which tower is D?
Sammy Luo
3:48pm
Sammy Luo

uh, the one farther from EC I think

it should say
Anastasiya Bershanska
3:49pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Ok, I'll just go look now
Sammy Luo
3:49pm
Sammy Luo

not gates

where are you going to wait for her?
Anastasiya Bershanska
3:49pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

outsude the classrom

*outside
Sammy Luo
3:49pm
Sammy Luo

ok

good luck

can you get there before 3:55?

hopefully they're actually meeting this week (the schedule says they "don't meet all the time", but we'll see)

yeah, just go for it, and if you miss her we can get her in EC later
Anastasiya Bershanska
3:53pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

The room is empty

I cannot kill anyone unsure emoticon
Sammy Luo
3:55pm
Sammy Luo

frown emoticon

come back and kill andy, then check 4E for jessk?
Anastasiya Bershanska
3:56pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

so our next option is ltchin
Sammy Luo
3:56pm
Sammy Luo

andy can be first if you want

ltchin is in the same place until 5pm right?

oh but if you there you can go for that first

*you're
Anastasiya Bershanska
3:57pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

yeah, class. Assuming, not missing it unsure emoticon
Sammy Luo
3:58pm
Sammy Luo

ok
Anastasiya Bershanska
3:58pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

I cannot go in class
Sammy Luo
3:58pm
Sammy Luo

so andy first?
Anastasiya Bershanska
3:58pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

I guess, we'll have to find people in EC

Yeah
Sammy Luo
3:58pm
Sammy Luo

ok

max is on floorpi so you can get him after andy and (hopefully) jessk

but andy is more important because trap + gn

(max being on hall also means I can't leave at a specific time without being suspicious, darn)
Sammy Luo
4:08pm
Sammy Luo

update?
Anastasiya Bershanska
4:10pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Please, find NP to check for jessk

Im eating, then will kill Amanda and Andy
Sammy Luo
4:10pm
Sammy Luo

OK

is amanda back on hall?
Anastasiya Bershanska
4:11pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Yeah
Sammy Luo
4:11pm
Sammy Luo

cool!
Anastasiya Bershanska
4:12pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

They closed the door, I might not be able to kill them
Sammy Luo
4:13pm
Sammy Luo

get an NP to lure them out?
Anastasiya Bershanska
4:22pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Idk if I would be able to do that
Sammy Luo
4:23pm
Sammy Luo

all you need is an NP to knock on their door and ask them if they're there, then as soon as they open the door you can do the kill incant on them (sequentially, but they're not allowed to stop you)

you say "I kill you one I kill you two I kill you three BANG"

(if they're in a room with an open door)
Anastasiya Bershanska
4:25pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Both dead
Sammy Luo
4:25pm
Sammy Luo

cool!

no response from 4E NPs yet

but you should just go up and if her door is open, kill her

Wa410

(jessk)
Anastasiya Bershanska
4:31pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Not there
Sammy Luo
4:31pm
Sammy Luo

frown emoticon

that's fine
Anastasiya Bershanska
4:32pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Andres Perez (just memo for myself)
Sammy Luo
4:32pm
Sammy Luo

did you make sure he wouldn't rat you out?

he's done that in the past

remember to avoid alex from now on
Anastasiya Bershanska
4:37pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

SURE

I asked him to be my body guard
Sammy Luo
4:37pm
Sammy Luo

oh
Anastasiya Bershanska
4:37pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

(tell people if someone kills me)
Sammy Luo
4:37pm
Sammy Luo

ok

left on the menu for today: ltchin, jessk or csvoss, maxmurin and/or tuan

max is still on floorpi
Anastasiya Bershanska
4:38pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Shpould I kill ltchin or Tuan?
Sammy Luo
4:38pm
Sammy Luo

ltchin is more important to kill
Anastasiya Bershanska
4:38pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

ok
Sammy Luo
4:39pm
Sammy Luo

but we don't know if it ends at 5 or 7, I guess
Anastasiya Bershanska
4:39pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Yeah, but I can just come there and see
Sammy Luo
4:39pm
Sammy Luo

yeah

and if it's still going on, maybe tuan next is reasonable
Anastasiya Bershanska
4:39pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Do you know NP that could help me?
Sammy Luo
4:39pm
Sammy Luo

let's see

6.002?
Anastasiya Bershanska
4:40pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

yeah
Sammy Luo
4:40pm
Sammy Luo

victoria xia is in the class

I'll message her

messaged, probably won't respond in time

oh she might not be in the same lab or whatever, I'm not sure how this works

so, go there, if this doesn't work, go for tuan?
Anastasiya Bershanska
4:43pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Send me the link to the picture I'm not ok my laptop now
Sammy Luo
4:43pm
Sammy Luo

of ltchin?

http://i.imgur.com/i7EEmgg.jpg

oh I'm talking to victoria

ltchin is there now

but it's open lab hours

so unclear how long she'll be there?

maybe we can arrange a distraction

ok, victoria says you could go in and kill her without causing a distraction
Anastasiya Bershanska
4:47pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

I can just walk in and kill

I don't care at this point
Sammy Luo
4:47pm
Sammy Luo

yeah
Anastasiya Bershanska
4:48pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Cool, but I can't get there
Sammy Luo
4:48pm
Sammy Luo

victoria says that's ok

oh, why not?

do you need a password or something?

the hours aren't strict so distance should hopefully not be a big deal
Anastasiya Bershanska
4:50pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

How do you get in 38-500?
Sammy Luo
4:50pm
Sammy Luo

I'm asking

where are you right now?

victoria says

go to building 34

there are elevators

take those to the 5th floor

Walk straight out of the elevators, through 34 into 38

At the end of the hallway is 38-530

Then go all the way to the back left of the (large-ish) room, which is where the 6.002 stations are

ltchin is leaving in 10 minutes

(or, vxia thinks she said this, but is not sure)

did those directions make sense? where are you right now?
Anastasiya Bershanska
4:55pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

I'm there, where exactly is she?

She is dead
Sammy Luo
4:55pm
Sammy Luo

oh nice

smile emoticon
Anastasiya Bershanska
4:55pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Who is next?
Sammy Luo
4:55pm
Sammy Luo

ideally one of jessk and csvoss, but I don't know where to find them, so they can wait a while I guess

maxmurin is still on floorpi

you could go for tuan?

Tuan: "Updates: at 5 I will go to the stud to get food and a 2019 sweatshirt.
I will probably tool 18.702 on Black Hole, Clam, or EC 4E

Everything else will follow my schedule pretty well"

he's heading there from 56-154
Anastasiya Bershanska
4:59pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Ok, I'll go to 56

Check the spreadsheet whom I can target
Sammy Luo
5:02pm
Sammy Luo

Oh jessk:

- also going to the student center at 4:30 to a '16s study break. Maybe I'll stay there the whole time between 3-4:30, maybe not, idk man
Anastasiya Bershanska
5:02pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Tuan is dead
Sammy Luo
5:02pm
Sammy Luo

Nice

Oh so maybe jessk is back in ec?
Anastasiya Bershanska
5:03pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Find NP to check
Sammy Luo
5:03pm
Sammy Luo

Ok
Anastasiya Bershanska
5:03pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Check spreadsheet, anyone I can target?
Sammy Luo
5:04pm
Sammy Luo

Oh I misread jessk

She's staying in w20 at the 2016s study break
Anastasiya Bershanska
5:05pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Should target her there
Sammy Luo
5:05pm
Sammy Luo

You need to get her or csvoss most urgently

Yeah

Not sure where in w20
Anastasiya Bershanska
5:05pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Where? Just tell location
Sammy Luo
5:06pm
Sammy Luo

Check the second floor probably
Anastasiya Bershanska
5:06pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Ok, both in stud?
Sammy Luo
5:06pm
Sammy Luo

Um

Let me check csvoss
Anastasiya Bershanska
5:07pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Should I go to Stud?
Sammy Luo
5:07pm
Sammy Luo

Yeah

(I'm in class now but can keep checking)
Anastasiya Bershanska
5:08pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Ok
Sammy Luo
5:08pm
Sammy Luo

Oh csvoss is going to a talk at 5:30

4-370
Anastasiya Bershanska
5:09pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

But now it's stud, right?
Sammy Luo
5:09pm
Sammy Luo

But jessk is better yeah
Anastasiya Bershanska
5:09pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Picture?
Sammy Luo
5:09pm
Sammy Luo

If you get Jess no need for csvoss

https://m.imgur.com/rzVk2y3

Jessk


This is me: https://imgur.com/rzVk2y3 I'm 5'2" & have a faded purple mohawk which is getting unrulishly long

So purplish hair, longer than pictured probably

If you can't find the event it might be better to just get csvoss
Anastasiya Bershanska
5:13pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Ok, W20-4? I think that's what was on the spreadsheet
Sammy Luo
5:13pm
Sammy Luo

For who?
Anastasiya Bershanska
5:13pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Jessk

In the stud
Sammy Luo
5:14pm
Sammy Luo

I don't know where in w20
Anastasiya Bershanska
5:14pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Do you know NP?
Sammy Luo
5:14pm
Sammy Luo

W20-4 might have been earlier event

No frown emoticon

I'll ask a 2016 actually
Anastasiya Bershanska
5:16pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Study break is over
Sammy Luo
5:16pm
Sammy Luo

Oh ok

Csvoss then?

Scott Aaronson's talk, Thursday 4/14, 5:30pm, 4-370
Anastasiya Bershanska
5:16pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Where to go?

Ok
Sammy Luo
5:16pm
Sammy Luo

https://avatars0.githubusercontent.com/ ... ?v=3&s=460
Anastasiya Bershanska
5:18pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

jessk dead
Sammy Luo
5:19pm
Sammy Luo

Nice!

Ok
Anastasiya Bershanska
5:19pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

On mass Ave near lobby 7
Sammy Luo
5:19pm
Sammy Luo

Now don't get killed
Anastasiya Bershanska
5:19pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

You report all the deaths, right?
Sammy Luo
5:19pm
Sammy Luo

So avoid Alex and csvoss today

Yeah

I didn't give specific times

I'll go do that

That's all the kills for today

You can't make any more

I can still kill maxmurin if I need to

Well you can kill achester if you see him
Anastasiya Bershanska
5:20pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

I can kill csvoss just for fun
Sammy Luo
5:20pm
Sammy Luo

No

You can't

We already used all our traps

We have to scheme to make the last kill

I.e. I have to make it

But if I do it's obvious achester is innocent
Anastasiya Bershanska
5:21pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Oh, ok

I'll probably not see achester today
Sammy Luo
5:21pm
Sammy Luo

So your job is to avoid getting killed by Alex or csvoss

Right

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Location: EC - Floorpi
Anastasiya Bershanska
5:22pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Yeah
Sammy Luo
5:22pm
Sammy Luo

Either I'll kill maxmurin and call game, or we can try to actually win by lynching achester
Anastasiya Bershanska
5:22pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Try to kill max may be?
Sammy Luo
5:22pm
Sammy Luo

No, then it's provable I'm bad
Anastasiya Bershanska
5:22pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

What do forums say?
Sammy Luo
5:23pm
Sammy Luo

Oops none have been posted

I should give more careful reports
Anastasiya Bershanska
5:23pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Ok, do it

Also, they know I'm mafia
Sammy Luo
5:23pm
Sammy Luo

Who?
Anastasiya Bershanska
5:23pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Slava
Sammy Luo
5:24pm
Sammy Luo

That's ok
Anastasiya Bershanska
5:24pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Idk how he learned that
Sammy Luo
5:24pm
Sammy Luo

It's pretty obvious
Anastasiya Bershanska
5:24pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Yeah, I just don't want to be chased now
Sammy Luo
5:24pm
Sammy Luo

Anpere?

Yeah

Hide in a room

Or, just avoid Alex and csvoss
Anastasiya Bershanska
5:24pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

I'll be in a library
Sammy Luo
5:24pm
Sammy Luo

Getting tased would be nice since you can't kill any more anyway
Anastasiya Bershanska
5:25pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

But one of the players can kill me, right?
Sammy Luo
5:26pm
Sammy Luo

Where did you kill Tuan?

Yeah, so avoid Alex and csvoss

Yeah avoiding death is more important

Where did you kill Tuan?
Anastasiya Bershanska
5:28pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Classroom

56-154 I think
Sammy Luo
5:29pm
Sammy Luo

Lol ampere rated you out

But it's ok

Ok, avoid death

You probably get a taser

So taser Alex if he comes at you
Anastasiya Bershanska
5:31pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Picture?
Sammy Luo
5:31pm
Sammy Luo

If you can safely avoid him all day, that's better

http://theoryofcomputing.org/articles/v ... khipov.jpg
Anastasiya Bershanska
5:32pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Ok
Sammy Luo
5:32pm
Sammy Luo

You would have to write his name on the taser beforehand

But that means you can't defend against csvoss

So actually just don't do anything
Anastasiya Bershanska
5:32pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Ok, even taze Alex?
Sammy Luo
5:33pm
Sammy Luo

Um

Where are you going to be for the rest of the day?

If you'll be secluded you're safe

Also, you were ratted out so just hide
Anastasiya Bershanska
5:38pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

I know I have been ratted out, I don't care
Sammy Luo
5:38pm
Sammy Luo

Yeah

Just don't get killed
Anastasiya Bershanska
5:39pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

It's not as if I was going to pretend to be innocent after murdering 5 people
Sammy Luo
5:39pm
Sammy Luo

Yeah

But hide is the point
Anastasiya Bershanska
5:42pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Do I have taser from Tuan?

How many kills can we make today?

I mean after this. You can make just one kill, right?
Sammy Luo
5:43pm
Sammy Luo

Yeah

One
Anastasiya Bershanska
5:44pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

So tomorrow you can kill max and achester, then we win?

Or it doesn't matter
Sammy Luo
5:44pm
Sammy Luo

Yeah, if we don't get tased or killed or lynched

If we don't lynch achester today we probably lose - they'll know to lynch me before you

Since the gns can kill you
Anastasiya Bershanska
5:45pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

I'll get lynched tonight for sure, so tomorrow you just shouldn't get tased
Sammy Luo
5:45pm
Sammy Luo

Achester will likely have a ready

Taser
Anastasiya Bershanska
5:45pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Oh, makes sense
Sammy Luo
5:45pm
Sammy Luo

So I have to push for lynching achester which is what I'd do if I were town
Anastasiya Bershanska
5:46pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Then try to convince people to kill achester

Cool
Sammy Luo
5:46pm
Sammy Luo

Ok
Anastasiya Bershanska
5:47pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Do I have taser?

If so, I might hand it to you

So you have a better chance for survival
Sammy Luo
5:48pm
Sammy Luo

No one can kill me

Because I didn't kill a gn

So you should keep it
Anastasiya Bershanska
5:49pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Do I have it though? Check with gods
Sammy Luo
5:49pm
Sammy Luo

Also, I'd like to say that you're really amazing and it's been a pleasure working with you
Anastasiya Bershanska
5:49pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Haha, thanks
Sammy Luo
5:50pm
Sammy Luo

Oh Ksedlar says mods are inactive

Hence no death reports posted yet

She says either to let her post them and tell you whether you get a taser, or do neither

I'd say neither?
Anastasiya Bershanska
5:52pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Idk, the rule is that if death is not posted within half an hour, people should post their death themselves

So deaths will be posted soon

Also, if deaths are not posted, can GNs still kill me if they know for sure that I killed their partner?
Sammy Luo
5:54pm
Sammy Luo

They can't know for sure

Because mods are inactive

But probably

So you should stay safe

Are you somewhere safe?
Anastasiya Bershanska
5:56pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

I'm in a library - very safe, but I want to go back to EC and hide in a friend's room

Is there anyone I should avoid on 1E?
Sammy Luo
5:58pm
Sammy Luo

No
Anastasiya Bershanska
5:59pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Cool, I'll be there

So, which players should I avoid?
Sammy Luo
5:59pm
Sammy Luo

Alex and csvoss
Anastasiya Bershanska
5:59pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

(I don't have laptop in front of me now.)

Just them?
Sammy Luo
5:59pm
Sammy Luo

Yeah

They're the only gns
Anastasiya Bershanska
6:00pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Cool

Pictures?
Sammy Luo
6:00pm
Sammy Luo

The only living players are Mafia, dying gns, poisoned people, achester and Max

I sent you both pictures earlier

But honestly just hide somewhere no player knows tongue emoticon

Preferably inaccessible, eg your room with door locked
Anastasiya Bershanska
6:12pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Now I'm really heading to your room

*sorry, not for you
Sammy Luo
7:48pm
Sammy Luo

Still safe?

I'm going to stalk Alex and use the mafia stalking power on csvoss just for amusement, tell me if you object

er, other way around
Sammy Luo
8:07pm
Sammy Luo

you've voted, right?
Anastasiya Bershanska
8:24pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

No

Should I vote?

For Achester?
Sammy Luo
8:29pm
Sammy Luo

Yeah.
Sammy Luo
8:45pm
Sammy Luo

Oh also, you might want to write Alex's name on your taser before you venture out so that if he does kill you he can't use it on me
Anastasiya Bershanska
9:36pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

achester just pmed me and he wants me to make a vigilante kill. I responded with skepticism about his loyalty to the town, but he would probably want to the kill tonight. I cannot make any kills today, so I'll just be very indecisive, and I probably don't want to expose myself.

Do you know the status of GN investigations?
Sammy Luo
9:46pm
Sammy Luo

You should not do anything

Just hide and don't get killed
Anastasiya Bershanska
9:47pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Yeah, that's what I'm doing now
Anastasiya Bershanska
10:04pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

achester wants to impeach Lucy and he pmed most players, but he clearly does not trust you.
Sammy Luo
10:30pm
Sammy Luo

right

don't sign his thing

actually, I guess you could kill him if he shows up tongue emoticon

but no, I think you want to stay hidden
Anastasiya Bershanska
10:40pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Why would I not sign the impeachment?

Oh, because I don't want a functional mayor
Sammy Luo
10:41pm
Sammy Luo

he might have a GN come with him to kill you secretly

that too

you've written Alex on your taser, right? (you have a taser, right?)
Anastasiya Bershanska
10:42pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Yeah, I was not going to meet personally. Also, I'm surprised that they have not exposed me yet.
Sammy Luo
10:42pm
Sammy Luo

yeah, silly
Anastasiya Bershanska
10:42pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

They are gathering against you, so you should be more active to kill achester
Sammy Luo
10:42pm
Sammy Luo

?
Anastasiya Bershanska
10:42pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

achester is pming players

He pmed me and he might have already investugated me with GN and then you will be lynched today
Sammy Luo
10:43pm
Sammy Luo

oh they investigated you

they want to lynch you now
Anastasiya Bershanska
10:45pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

yeah, lol

Idk, should I meet up with achester?
Sammy Luo
10:45pm
Sammy Luo

no

he already went back
Anastasiya Bershanska
10:46pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

ok
Sammy Luo
10:48pm
Sammy Luo

um actually, you should not vote for achester because that will look sketchy if you get lynched
Anastasiya Bershanska
10:48pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

true

do you know if people are voting for me?
Sammy Luo
10:49pm
Sammy Luo

idk

but you should not vote for achester
Anastasiya Bershanska
10:49pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

ok, should I vote for you?

that's dangerous

I'll vote for maxmurin to be safe
Sammy Luo
10:50pm
Sammy Luo

ok
Anastasiya Bershanska
10:51pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

I hope you would be able to finish the game without me

Don't be afraid to kill, it's fun. You will soon get taste of it.
Sammy Luo
10:57pm
Sammy Luo

sorry, I really just want to resign

I mean, we clearly won in spirit

this is all just stupid nonsense
Anastasiya Bershanska
10:58pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

I know, but I have to be dead. You have to finish my job
Sammy Luo
10:58pm
Sammy Luo

I'm doing this as a sign of defying authority

like ltchin
Anastasiya Bershanska
10:58pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Just try, can I give you taser?
Sammy Luo
10:59pm
Sammy Luo

no

I'm sorry
Anastasiya Bershanska
10:59pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Ok, why?
Sammy Luo
10:59pm
Sammy Luo

(destroy your taser)
Anastasiya Bershanska
10:59pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Ok

You just don't want to deal with it?
Sammy Luo
10:59pm
Sammy Luo

yeah

it's stupid

I'm going to get tased anyway
Anastasiya Bershanska
11:00pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Nah
Sammy Luo
11:00pm
Sammy Luo

yes

they'd be stupid not to

they have 3 tasers

I'm sorry, you clearly deserved the win. If anyone lost, it's just me
Anastasiya Bershanska
11:01pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

True, but you can just try to kill people just for fun

Just try t
Sammy Luo
11:01pm
Sammy Luo

no, killing people is not fun for me, I hate it
Anastasiya Bershanska
11:01pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Find them before they find you
Sammy Luo
11:01pm
Sammy Luo

bang-immune alex is going to come at me with a taser
Anastasiya Bershanska
11:01pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

Why is he immune?
Anastasiya Bershanska
11:14pm
Anastasiya Bershanska

You resigned smile emoticon

*:(
Anastasiya Bershanska
11:14pm
Anastasiya Bershanska
Sammy Luo
12:35am
Sammy Luo

Sorry frown emoticon

I'm pretty sure we won in spirit. Like I told you, you were amazing.
Anastasiya Bershanska
12:40am
Anastasiya Bershanska

Whatever. I do understand your reasoning and I am fine with you ending the game. I was slightly upset at first, but now I totally support your decision - you should not be forced to play if you don't want to.

It was a good game, we ended up being pretty close
Sammy Luo
12:44am
Sammy Luo

Thanks; yeah, we definitely did, and would've won if achester was on campus! I know you got a little annoyed at me for avoiding making kills, and I'm really sorry about that.

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