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Author:  jamb [ Wed Mar 08, 2017 9:00 pm ]
Post subject:  Investigations

I'm planning to mayorally investigate maxmurin+brunnerj, unless someone else does before 21:10.

Author:  blumberg [ Wed Mar 08, 2017 9:06 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Investigations

I don't see why you should announce that.. doesn't that just tell the mafia to post something fake?

Author:  jamb [ Wed Mar 08, 2017 9:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Investigations

Eh, fair point. It maybe helps avoid redundant investigations, was the idea; I didn't think of the mafia-faking thing. I'm now doing this regardless.

Author:  maxmurin [ Wed Mar 08, 2017 9:12 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Investigations

The reasoning is (as I understand it) to prevent other investigators from investigating the same set. If all investigators randomize, the probability of this happening is small, though. This is also really only a problem if all the investigators investigate at the same time, since if they are more sparsely distributed, they'll usually see other investigators' investigations before making their own, and together with randomization conflicts are very rare.

I'm not sure how I feel about announcing investigations before they are made.

Author:  dylanhen [ Wed Mar 08, 2017 9:14 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Investigations

With Monty Hall investigators, it's still reasonably useful to investigate the same pair twice. I think we shouldn't say who we're investigating ahead of time.

Author:  jamb [ Wed Mar 08, 2017 9:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Investigations

Ok yeah I now agree with y'all... I was thinking there was nothing mafia could do since they don't have frame, but yeah.

Investigator Yfn Mayor says {brunnerj, maxmurin} -> brunnerj did not kill Lucy.

Author:  Linus [ Wed Mar 08, 2017 9:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Investigations

Can't Mafia fake investigations regardless? How do we stop that? (By the time we find out, someone in the proxy chain could have died, so we can't trace it back...)

Author:  jamb [ Wed Mar 08, 2017 9:22 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Investigations

Yeah, they can. We can't really stop it, but we can do the following:

1) Be watchful of investigators that spontaneously start existing after day 1. They might be mafia who have decided to just start proxying stuff later, last a couple days, then kill their proxy off. That said, they could also be desperadoes, but I think given only 1 investigation, it's probably optimal for desperadoes to just self-proxy immediately before dying.

2) Trust investigations somewhat more when you know their source. (That'd be mayor, PO, and proclaimed-self-proxied investigations e.g. from about-to-die desperadoes.)

Author:  jamb [ Wed Mar 08, 2017 9:24 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Investigations

Er, the point of (1) is that if they kill off their proxies to prevent it being traced back, they can't then start faking being another separate investigator; any investigations they proxy out have to be coming from a source that existed from the beginning.

Author:  maxmurin [ Wed Mar 08, 2017 11:06 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Investigations

Investigator Aru Akise says that {Linus, agrebe} returns Linus as the innocent one.

Additionally, this investigator's original proxy was Maya, who read the PM but did not post the investigation.

Author:  dylanhen [ Wed Mar 08, 2017 11:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Investigations

Did Aru Akise investigate Lucy's death?

Author:  maxmurin [ Wed Mar 08, 2017 11:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Investigations

Yes, Aru Akise investigated Lucy's death.

Author:  Linus [ Wed Mar 08, 2017 11:13 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Investigations

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Author:  maxmurin [ Wed Mar 08, 2017 11:24 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Investigations

Priest Tsubaki Kasunago claims that neither Linus nor Isaac killed Jackie.

Author:  dylanhen [ Thu Mar 09, 2017 10:25 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Investigations

Group Investigator Roronoa Zoro says none of mendel, fmajluf7, or isaacg killed maxmurin.

Author:  Mendel [ Thu Mar 09, 2017 10:33 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Investigations

Shouldn't a group investigator have a non inno for Bayesian evidence

Author:  dylanhen [ Thu Mar 09, 2017 10:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Investigations

Group investigation are normal: they just say a set of people and find out whether any of them made a kill.

Author:  blumberg [ Thu Mar 09, 2017 10:41 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Investigations

Minene Uryuu says one of agrebe, fmajluf7, and libsackt killed maxmurin.

Author:  blumberg [ Thu Mar 09, 2017 10:44 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Investigations

As mayor, I investigated {Travis, Anthony} for Max's death and was told that Travis is innocent.

Author:  blumberg [ Fri Mar 10, 2017 10:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Investigations

Today I have two investigations! I used them both for Lucy's death since we are closest to finding her killer.

Mayoral: {isaacg, michikyo} says michikyo didn't do it.

Desperado: {isaacg, Linus} says Linus didn't do it.

Since jamb claimed isaacg is 50% less sketchy, I think one of those cancels and we have just one negative investigation against isaacg. I marked so on the spreadsheet.

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