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Author:  libsackt [ Fri Mar 10, 2017 10:56 am ]
Post subject:  Investigator Proxy

I talked with linus this morning (I missed the meeting after lecture, but he ended up coming to my room, LOL) -- he's definitely a townie.

I think we should use him as a single proxy for investigations. It'll make investigations run more smoothly if we only have a single person.

Thoughts?

Author:  blumberg [ Fri Mar 10, 2017 11:02 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Investigator Proxy

I think given this, I trust Linus more than ritagram. Also he won't be conscripted! Woo!

ALL HAIL LORD LINUS!

Also, pls don't die.

Author:  fmajluf7 [ Fri Mar 10, 2017 11:04 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Investigator Proxy

Can confirm Linus came by and kicked me out of Travis' room ._____.

Author:  Linus [ Fri Mar 10, 2017 11:11 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Investigator Proxy

blumberg wrote:
Also, pls don't die.


I'll try fam

Should everyone tell me their roles, or is the Travis/Linus newplayer-scumteam-gambit too likely? (I won't tell or hint at anything unless all involved parties are dead or agree it's a good idea.)

Author:  dylanhen [ Fri Mar 10, 2017 11:16 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Investigator Proxy

There's no reason for everyone to reveal their roles to you. I'm not even convinced we should use him as a proxy for everything: if you already have a proxy chain set up, you might as well keep using it.

Author:  brunnerj [ Fri Mar 10, 2017 11:27 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Investigator Proxy

Why do we think Linus must be town? In particular, revealing as GN, IC, or succubus doesn't prove it, as he could have been conscripted beforehand. Nonetheless, he is the most trusted townie after this, since this makes him more trusted than average and was after conscript had been used. But most trusted is not a sufficient title to be responsible for all information unless town wants to play high risk (which we may want to do).

Author:  brunnerj [ Fri Mar 10, 2017 11:27 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Investigator Proxy

Why do we think Linus must be town? In particular, revealing as GN, IC, or succubus doesn't prove it, as he could have been conscripted beforehand. Nonetheless, he is the most trusted townie after this, since this makes him more trusted than average and was after conscript had been used. But most trusted is not a sufficient title to be responsible for all information unless town wants to play high risk (which we may want to do).

Author:  dylanhen [ Fri Mar 10, 2017 11:38 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Investigator Proxy

I doubt Linus is conscripted, since he's a new player.

The most likely way Linus could be bad is if libsackt is also mafia, and they're pulling this off to try to get role info. I don't think this is very likely, but still don't want to tell him all our role info.

Author:  Linus [ Fri Mar 10, 2017 11:45 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Investigator Proxy

Dylan: respond to my PM, sketchball. You're obviously online. Why would you send investigation proxies to ritagram and not me given that ritagram is so much more likely to be conscripted?

Author:  Linus [ Fri Mar 10, 2017 11:56 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Investigator Proxy

Dylan is refusing to tell me who sent him the investigation. This is not OK. He says he doesn't want to send it to both ritagram and me. Ritagram is scummier than me, and sure isn't doing anything about it.

Sure, don't tell me all your roles. But not telling me your proxies when we can 100% catch a Mafia? Sketchtastic.

Author:  libsackt [ Fri Mar 10, 2017 12:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Investigator Proxy

I don't know if refusing to tell you a proxy is super sketchy -- he's trying to protect revealing other people's roles.

While it seems like a good idea to have a proxy and I'm confident your a townie, giving you roles willy-nilly is scary because of conscription.

Author:  Linus [ Fri Mar 10, 2017 12:19 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Investigator Proxy

Town can't win this game with 100% certainty. At some point, when the tree of possibilities sprawls out before you, you have to say "If I'm in this vanishingly unlikely branch, I'll commit to losing."

What are the chances I was conscripted? We know conscript was used /before/ Anthony's death. At that point in time, I was a sketchy new player. That's not who you conscript.

Author:  Mendel [ Fri Mar 10, 2017 12:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Investigator Proxy

I for one still think Linus killed Lucy

Author:  jakob [ Fri Mar 10, 2017 12:56 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Investigator Proxy

I'm kinda confused as to why we suddenly super trust Linus? just because he went to Travis's room and didn't kill him? or was there an implied (IC/GN/SC) reveal?

Author:  blumberg [ Fri Mar 10, 2017 1:04 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Investigator Proxy

I think there is an implied reveal of some kind. I think we believe that Linus > Travis.

Author:  brunnerj [ Fri Mar 10, 2017 1:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Investigator Proxy

Our trust is based entirely on libsackt saying he strongly trusts Linus after meeting with him this morning. Sounds like a provable innocent role reveal. Right now I do not think town wants to play riskily and bet everything on Linus's innocence with role reveals.

Author:  ritagram [ Fri Mar 10, 2017 1:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Investigator Proxy

Apologies for the inactivity, I've been mildly hosed recently. I'm working on the proxy-tracing. Don't know how effective it will be, given that there's a general suspicion of my having been conscripted.

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