Live Action Mafia

Sammyluo is lynched! brunnerj, Julian, laberca, and ObitoSigma get a coin! boof gets a crystal ball! achester gets a hymnal! python gets a shovel handle with the name m2w inscribed on it!

achester: sammyluo
boof: sammyluo
brunnerj: sammyluo
Chiller: sammyluo
cmcclena: sammyluo
dylanhen: sammyluo
ixa: sammyluo
joachim: joachim
Julian: sammyluo
laberca: sammyluo
lukesci: sammyluo
maxmurin: sammyluo
natalyat: sammyluo
ObitoSigma: ObitoSigma
python: sammyluo
ritagram: sammyluo
rusch: sammyluo
sammyluo: maxmurin
yyao1: sammyluo

I would like to shovel sammy, but would also like to get people to approve first.

[updated with votes]

I'd have been fine if you did it immediately to stop evidence from being planted

Is that a yes or no?

Yes

[Updated with item redistribution]

The result is mafia planeswalker.

Assuming that mafia will "waste" the shovel they got from gurev, there is no more unused shovel anymore. This means that we should consider using one of the mafia counters soon.

Wait what the heck is this pile of items?! Time to look at spreadsheet carefully.

hm

I'm sad that items were posted after the shovel happened since we knew he was mafia for holding a hymnal.

Well, we have another unique item we can use for labeling, I guess.

pretty good chance he's mafia since he has literally all of the sketchy items so probably don't shovel?

shoot too late

Yeah I wished I hasn't rushed to shovel...

So it's pretty clear that the mafia decided to pile all the items they collected from their kills onto sammy. That's a nice move.

Shoveling quickly was the wrong move and the waste of a good shovel.

Wait where did the shovel handle come from? Is this from the shovel that was on gurev?

Also, who had a crystal ball when they died? Presumably mafia didn't just drop a crystal ball for no reason.

ksedlar died with a crystal ball; the m2w shovel handle is probably from mafia using it to prevent town from using it (and to weaken the potency of the original one).

Ugh, shoveling quick is indeed plausibly the right move...because of winning race conditions on plant...actually, no, it probably should always lose the race condition. Idk what to say, other than being slightly more now against the "[updated with X]" paradigm, as opposed to gods posting things all at once.

And: does it automatically lose the race? I forget.

Anyhow I am sorry for wasting the shovel...

Another thing: apparently the items of all five kills resurfaced with sammy being lynched, and assuming that jamb is actually mafia, I think that jamb is a SK who didn't manage to contact the mafia, and the other SK has already did.

If jamb were a SK not in contact with mafia, are we assuming she didn't kill anyone? Everyone who died had items on them

Based on the fact that there's only one kill in day 1 and day 2, jamb probably didn't make any kill.

Alternatively, jamb could have contacted the mafia, and made a kill in the place of mafia, and gave the items to the mafia gang. This is unlikely because she was cleared for both kills.

Assuming Jackie wasn't a plant they were looking for Jackie post death beef and figured Sammy was a good opportunity to dump items. Doing so doubly helps cast doubt on Jackie so that post Sammy the mafia could bring this up and push for mislynch

I want to point out my minting suspicion of yyao for reasons that are perhaps excusable, in particular I would like to see an investigation clearing yyao for pravi.

I would just like to recommend that people not do what Chiller says.

Mounting

Goddammit

Lukesci and I (discussing at ET) observe that this is _all_ the sketchy items. Every kill had an item associated with it, so Sammy had the items from every kill. This means that the mafia are necessarily in contact with everyone who's made a kill. This probably means mafia are in contact with both serial killers. (This isn't guaranteed: it's possible that one serial killer hasn't done anything at all, and the mafia+other serial killer have both made all the kills and had one to spare to plead guilty.) This would also explain why there were so few kills in the first two days (two pleadings guilty).