Live Action Mafia

Day 5 is over.

Daniel Grazian is lynched.
toller dies due to being a Desperado.

Votes:
Daniel Grazian (5+2):
asjm
Ellena
Fake ID #2
kemus
Miranda Gavrin (3)

No Lynch (3):
achester
Daniel Grazian
svolz

WAIT BEFORE SHOVELING

Who has a shovel?

One person say that you're shovelling, and then shovel him 5 minutes later if no one else claims

Was there a positive investigation result that I was not aware of?

No, but Ellena and I spent the last 4-5 hours talking to him, and came out convinced he was mafia. Miranda and Asjm also agreed that he's been seeming really sketchy.


We might be wrong, and if we are, I'm so so sorry dgrazien. There was no hard evidence at all, but all 5 of us had gut feelings that he was sketchy...

Err, all four of us.

Even the nps in the room said his body language reeked of guilt...

I hope we were right, but we really shovel, guys...

I strongly condemn secret lynchings based on sketchiness. If you think that someone is sketchy, you should post on the forums that you want to lynch them.

On the other hand, dgrazian is quite good at equivocating, and there was a lack of hard evidence against him - if we'd posted it publicly he'd probably be able to convince a lot of people to no lynch.

I have a shovel and I volunteer to shovel. If I wake up tomorrow morning to find that no-one else has shoveled, I will shovel.

I would like to add, for the record, that I have not talked to DGrazian face-to-face this game. I voted for him for two reasons. 1, because Ellena said she and others had a strong gut feeling that DGrazian's body language was sketchy, and I trust Ellena. 2, because it's been 5 days and nobody's even tried to kill DGrazian yet.

I've been suspicious of dgrazian as well, which is why I've been pushing to have him investigated. He would have only been able to convince enough people to no lynch if he had actual evidence.

The other reason, although only slightly scummy, that we distrusted him was that:
-After being told that anpere was a new player, his original interrogation target was anpere, because he said that anpere and I were close enough that we were either both mafia or both innocent. Seems okay so far, but then the sketchy part: After beginning the interrogation, he tries to bully anpere into revealing his role early. He said there was no reason not to (but there was! Set a trap could be used early, and if anpere had told him his role, it could have been used without drawing any suspicion to dgrazian.)

I'm not disagreeing that he was sketchy. All that I'm saying is that secret lynch mobs without irrefutable evidence are bad for town, and sketchy. If you want to lynch someone based on reasonable, but not complete, evidence, then post about it.

I just talked to ltchin about this, and she agrees with me.

Alright, anyone who doesn't want me to shovel has 30 minutes to say something, because I want to do it sooner rather than later. I am shoveling at 12:06.

I have shoveled. Results when they come in.

DGrazian was Rogue! Go town!

YES!!

Thank the gods. This means I can sleep in peace tonight, unplagued by guilt.

Nice!

To be fair, we should have discussed a lynch on him because it would've prevented aok's reveal, so this triumph doesn't come without it's fair share of oops... I very much doubt that I will want to lead a secret lynch mob again any time soon.

Be careful, gay knights.

P.S., even though you were scum, dgrazien, I still feel kind of bad for not letting you defend yourself. Hopefully there's no hard feelings? <3

(By the way, if dgrazian were alive, I'm pretty sure what he'd say is that his last name isn't spelled with an e)

Double oops! Dgrazian.

The following investigations were made by dgrazian, and should not be trusted:
"Lilly did not kill Isaac"
"Lisa did not kill Isaac"

"Miranda did not kill tjhance" was also made by dgrazian.

Ooh, ooh, are you saying dgrazian was 'investigator' for AustinFathman? Because he did say that he wanted Austin's proxy to investigate achester for tjhance because "achester is a smart person and good at games like this"

Fortunately, Ellena and I lied to him and asked lopezv's investigator to check that one out, and it was confirmed innocent.

Also, this would unfortunately mean that we only have 1.5 investigators left (plus mayoral investigations)