Live Action Mafia

A game of sneakiness and paranoia
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 Post subject: LANE IS MAFIA
PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 11:37 am 
He just killed shike and kmath in front of me. I saw as I was entering stata.


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 Post subject: Re: LANE IS MAFIA
PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 11:38 am 
WAT?


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 Post subject: Re: LANE IS MAFIA
PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 11:39 am 
jakob is mafia, not me.


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 Post subject: Re: LANE IS MAFIA
PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 11:39 am 
Erm, for a more contentful post, I'm really confused what mafia is doing this game making really blatantly bad moves?

Whatever's going on, Lily and I have a solid alibi right now, so yay?


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 Post subject: Re: LANE IS MAFIA
PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 11:40 am 
jakob killed kmath and shike in stata. i was hanging with kmath after 8.02 and he just came up and killed shike without noticing me and kmath.


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 Post subject: Re: LANE IS MAFIA
PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 11:41 am 
some players can verify that vouch that i'm not mafia, probably.


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 Post subject: Re: LANE IS MAFIA
PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 11:42 am 
lgunder wrote:
jakob killed kmath and shike in stata. i was hanging with kmath after 8.02 and he just came up and killed shike without noticing me and kmath.

This is easily resolved by an investigation...


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 Post subject: Re: LANE IS MAFIA
PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 11:44 am 
Lynch em both.

Unless one of them has a provable role it's almost certainly better to lynch both parties than risk letting a mafia member go free.


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 Post subject: Re: LANE IS MAFIA
PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 11:46 am 
I was walking into stata to get lunch, and I saw lane killing them from afar. I don't think any of them saw me enter (or saw that I could see them), since I entered from a different entrance (56 direction) and saw them in Student Street.


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 Post subject: Re: LANE IS MAFIA
PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 11:48 am 
I'm not saying jakob's story isn't believable. Investigations are kind of pointless, yeah?

Scenario 1: lane is guilty. Lane screams plant evidence. Jakob screams lane is mafia.
Scenario 2: jakob is guilty. Jakob screams plant evidence. Lane screams Jakob is mafia.


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 Post subject: Re: LANE IS MAFIA
PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 11:49 am 
OOOO wait but they can't plant evidence twice right?

If they use it on one kill we still get no information though.


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 Post subject: Re: LANE IS MAFIA
PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 11:50 am 
Please nobody vigilante kill anyone until we have more info.


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 Post subject: Re: LANE IS MAFIA
PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 11:50 am 
Oh dang. I think it's generally good strategy to lynch both.
What if we got a vigilante to kill the one we think is more suspicious (personally I think maybe Jakob but I'd like to hear more details from both I guess) and then if they don't get their shot back then we lynch the other one? That way, best case scenario we save an innocent person, and we don't let a mafia live an extra day. Worst case scenario, we lose a vigilante shot /: We also kill an innocent, but we were going to lunch them anyway so it doesn't matter. Even in the worst case, we still definitely kill one mafia today and don't give someone who might be mafia another full day to live.

Also, idk about investigations. They could always plant evidence on the other, or not plant evidence and be like "omg the other guy obviously planted evidence on me I'm not the killer". Or they could plant evidence on some random person so that an investigation on both of them would come up innocent. Either way, I don't think it gives us any actual information.


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 Post subject: Re: LANE IS MAFIA
PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 11:51 am 
But there are 2 crimes, so unless they can't use plant evidence on both.

Either way, we've got mafia in a 50-50. Down for lynching both (mild preference towards jakob) unless someone can vouch for them and say they are a role worth saving.


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 Post subject: Re: LANE IS MAFIA
PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 11:51 am 
Ugh sorry I need to re-read the rules. I meant frame a townsperson. And they'd both come up guilty if evidence is planted. Okay, with 4 investigations we can figure out who is actually mafia.


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 Post subject: Re: LANE IS MAFIA
PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 11:54 am 
Just investigate both of them for both deaths. Whoever comes up guilty for both is definitely mafia. (and if they both are guilty for both then we lynch both)


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 Post subject: Re: LANE IS MAFIA
PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 11:56 am 
There are two frames this game.


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 Post subject: Re: LANE IS MAFIA
PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 12:01 pm 
Yeah oops I also meant frame a townsperson. So they theoretically could use both here. We need to organize investigations if we are going to use 4 investigations here, to make sure we don't do the same investigation twice.


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 Post subject: Re: LANE IS MAFIA
PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 12:04 pm 
Let investigators do their work. No vigilantes.

Kmath was set-a-trapped clearly.

Has anybody claimed a role to either lane or Jakob (whether or not you told the truth!) Almost as importantly, have either of them asked you for your role?


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 Post subject: Re: LANE IS MAFIA
PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 12:04 pm 
Sherlock Holmes says Lane killed kmath.


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 Post subject: Re: LANE IS MAFIA
PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 12:07 pm 
Daniel Grazian wrote:
Let investigators do their work. No vigilantes


Not yet that is.


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 Post subject: Re: LANE IS MAFIA
PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 12:14 pm 
Question: is it worth 4 investigations to save one townie life? I guess the bigger benefit is ~50% chance of killing a mafia member a day earlier than we would otherwise. Just thoughts.


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 Post subject: Re: LANE IS MAFIA
PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 12:16 pm 
mads wrote:
Question: is it worth 4 investigations to save one townie life? I guess the bigger benefit is ~50% chance of killing a mafia member a day earlier than we would otherwise. Just thoughts.


Probably yes, because there's no other important investigations to do. Everyone says the first kill is likely uninvestigatable, and kill 2 was claimed by ksedlar (was that ever verified?)


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 Post subject: Re: LANE IS MAFIA
PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 12:18 pm 
@jessk: yes that was verified by the investigator I was proxying for.

How do we know it was kmath who was trapped rather than shike? Is it just that shike's more experienced or is there other information?


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 Post subject: Re: LANE IS MAFIA
PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 12:19 pm 
Kmart said Ksedlar knew her role


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 Post subject: Re: LANE IS MAFIA
PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 12:20 pm 
Lol *kmath


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 Post subject: Re: LANE IS MAFIA
PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 12:20 pm 
kmath publicly revealed as investigator


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 Post subject: Re: LANE IS MAFIA
PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 12:23 pm 
I can vouch for Lane's innocence (assuming he wasn't conscripted), and I'm not the only one.


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 Post subject: Re: LANE IS MAFIA
PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 12:45 pm 
I also have people who can vouch for my innocence.


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 Post subject: Re: LANE IS MAFIA
PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 12:50 pm 
It's not safe to let either live. Don't waste any further resources on this, just execute them both.


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