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 Post subject: Investigations
PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 9:00 pm 
I'm planning to mayorally investigate maxmurin+brunnerj, unless someone else does before 21:10.


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 Post subject: Re: Investigations
PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 9:06 pm 
I don't see why you should announce that.. doesn't that just tell the mafia to post something fake?


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 Post subject: Re: Investigations
PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 9:10 pm 
Eh, fair point. It maybe helps avoid redundant investigations, was the idea; I didn't think of the mafia-faking thing. I'm now doing this regardless.


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 Post subject: Re: Investigations
PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 9:12 pm 
The reasoning is (as I understand it) to prevent other investigators from investigating the same set. If all investigators randomize, the probability of this happening is small, though. This is also really only a problem if all the investigators investigate at the same time, since if they are more sparsely distributed, they'll usually see other investigators' investigations before making their own, and together with randomization conflicts are very rare.

I'm not sure how I feel about announcing investigations before they are made.


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 Post subject: Re: Investigations
PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 9:14 pm 
With Monty Hall investigators, it's still reasonably useful to investigate the same pair twice. I think we shouldn't say who we're investigating ahead of time.


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 Post subject: Re: Investigations
PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 9:16 pm 
Ok yeah I now agree with y'all... I was thinking there was nothing mafia could do since they don't have frame, but yeah.

Investigator Yfn Mayor says {brunnerj, maxmurin} -> brunnerj did not kill Lucy.


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 Post subject: Re: Investigations
PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 9:20 pm 
Can't Mafia fake investigations regardless? How do we stop that? (By the time we find out, someone in the proxy chain could have died, so we can't trace it back...)


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 Post subject: Re: Investigations
PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 9:22 pm 
Yeah, they can. We can't really stop it, but we can do the following:

1) Be watchful of investigators that spontaneously start existing after day 1. They might be mafia who have decided to just start proxying stuff later, last a couple days, then kill their proxy off. That said, they could also be desperadoes, but I think given only 1 investigation, it's probably optimal for desperadoes to just self-proxy immediately before dying.

2) Trust investigations somewhat more when you know their source. (That'd be mayor, PO, and proclaimed-self-proxied investigations e.g. from about-to-die desperadoes.)


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 Post subject: Re: Investigations
PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 9:24 pm 
Er, the point of (1) is that if they kill off their proxies to prevent it being traced back, they can't then start faking being another separate investigator; any investigations they proxy out have to be coming from a source that existed from the beginning.


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 Post subject: Re: Investigations
PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 11:06 pm 
Investigator Aru Akise says that {Linus, agrebe} returns Linus as the innocent one.

Additionally, this investigator's original proxy was Maya, who read the PM but did not post the investigation.


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 Post subject: Re: Investigations
PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 11:07 pm 
Did Aru Akise investigate Lucy's death?


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 Post subject: Re: Investigations
PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 11:09 pm 
Yes, Aru Akise investigated Lucy's death.


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 Post subject: Re: Investigations
PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 11:13 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Investigations
PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 11:24 pm 
Priest Tsubaki Kasunago claims that neither Linus nor Isaac killed Jackie.


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 Post subject: Re: Investigations
PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 10:25 pm 
Group Investigator Roronoa Zoro says none of mendel, fmajluf7, or isaacg killed maxmurin.


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 Post subject: Re: Investigations
PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 10:33 pm 
Shouldn't a group investigator have a non inno for Bayesian evidence


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 Post subject: Re: Investigations
PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 10:34 pm 
Group investigation are normal: they just say a set of people and find out whether any of them made a kill.


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 Post subject: Re: Investigations
PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 10:41 pm 
Minene Uryuu says one of agrebe, fmajluf7, and libsackt killed maxmurin.


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 Post subject: Re: Investigations
PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 10:44 pm 
As mayor, I investigated {Travis, Anthony} for Max's death and was told that Travis is innocent.


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 Post subject: Re: Investigations
PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 10:48 pm 
Today I have two investigations! I used them both for Lucy's death since we are closest to finding her killer.

Mayoral: {isaacg, michikyo} says michikyo didn't do it.

Desperado: {isaacg, Linus} says Linus didn't do it.

Since jamb claimed isaacg is 50% less sketchy, I think one of those cancels and we have just one negative investigation against isaacg. I marked so on the spreadsheet.


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