Sorry I'm being brain dead and confusing which post I was replying to. I didn't get much sleep last night and had just woken up when I wrote that. I'll try to restate my opinions in a way that makes sense now that I'm more awake-ish. I will admit, I am not the best logic-brain, and as such my arguments are not as polished as Enrique's, however I will try to make them as sensical as possible.
krue wrote:
There is also the distinct possibility that Frame an Innocent was used on last night's murder. Dgrazian's investigator being a fake is not the only possibility. I would expect you to realize this, Enrique, which makes me suspicious considering that you didn't even mention the possibility in your post.
...I'm staring at this and not remembering why the hell I wrote it. I think I might've been mixing up Enrique's and Jfrisch's posts. Ignore this. Sorry for being a derp.
krue wrote:
The list of people who were playing both B5 and mafia, as far as I know, is alcor, Tom, and you (Enrique). I think the more likely scenario is that you killed alcor and used Frame an Innocent to cover it up
This was more my main argument. As far as I know, the only people playing B5 who are also in mafia are alcor, Tom, and Enrique. Since Tom was a Saint and alcor was murdered...well, the most obvious possibility is that Enrique killed alcor and used Frame an Innocent to blame Tom. This is the main reason I suspect him, not because I am "indiscriminately attacking [his] character".
There are other reasons as well, but these are better told by people who are logic-brains and actually enjoy heated debates rather than getting worked up about them, so I will leave the people I was discussing these reasons with to bring those points up.
Another thing:
Enrique wrote:
you were seen by numerous guild people leaving quickly around the scene of the crime to a guild game you as you say have no part of
I will admit to being at the Guild game for some period of time within an hour after the murder occurred. I was derping around on my computer for a large portion of the day, so I noticed shortly after it was posted that there had been a murder (yay, email alerts when the forum updates). Yes, I went to the murder site. This is a thing that I do on a regular basis in Live Action Mafia, regardless of whether I'm the investigator. The more people who visit the murder site soon after the murder, the less likely it is for the mafia to figure out who the actual investigator is. This is a strategy I've employed in previous games, and one which I've discussed with a number of other players privately this game, and I know at least a couple of them confirmed that they went to the site of the murder at some point after the murder occurred, so you apparently weren't paying as close attention as you thought if you only saw one set of people walk through.