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Day 1 vote
https://mafia.mit.edu/viewtopic.php?f=461&t=7078
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Author:  Sir Nicoeus [ Wed Sep 18, 2019 9:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Day 1 vote

Hey guys,

Due to the lack of investigations, I think we should do no execution tonight and heavily investigate brunnerj tomorrow.

Author:  aok [ Wed Sep 18, 2019 9:40 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Day 1 vote

I agree, I don't think it's likely that brunnerj did this.

Author:  ixa [ Wed Sep 18, 2019 9:42 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Day 1 vote

tldr; As I said in the other thread, I also think we should vote no lynch today.

Unless new information comes up, I think our 2 courses of actions are:

1. Vote brunnerj today
2. Vote no lynch today, wait for more investigations tomorrow to confirm/deny the suspicion of brunnerj.

I personally think (2) is a better choice because this is a HIGHLY suspicious kill for brunnerj to make (Killing a player while other people know he will be around+not having any alibi?). This is a very sloppy kill for him to have made, and it points a lot to mafia trying to frame him, knowing he and achester would be at the same meeting. Another point to brunnerj's favor is that achester did not paranoia text about the killer, despite being in the elevator with the killer? This points to someone who achester does not know the face of.

Valid reasons for voting (1): "Being too suspicious" is NOT an entire reason to not vote for someone. There's a high chance that if it's not Josh who killed achester, then he was framed, and we won't gain any useful information about his innocence, and will have to lynch him anyway, burning up any future investigations that we try to use to determine his innocence on a mostly "solved" kill.

Author:  brunnerj [ Wed Sep 18, 2019 9:42 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Day 1 vote

I agree with no lynch and investigate this more tomorrow.

Author:  m2w [ Wed Sep 18, 2019 9:44 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Day 1 vote

I think we should still lynch brunnerj. The timing and the negative investigation are highly suspicious. We've discounted kills for being "too suspicious" many times before that were actually done by the person in question (me ==> aok, Julian ==> Sammy, for example). Even if he didn't commit the kill, he was almost certainly framed, indicating that we would not be able to tell otherwise from investigations. Not lynching him is worse than lynching him, if he made this kill, because he'll be able to make another kill tomorrow, meaning we'll lose out on a chance to out another mafia via investigations.

I could maybe be convinced to change my mind about this if a roleblocker proxies that they're roleblocking brunnerj tomorrow. (However, still a bit concerned the mafia might fake this.)

Author:  m2w [ Wed Sep 18, 2019 9:51 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Day 1 vote

The innocent investigation on brunnerj is enough to make me change my vote for today. I would want this result to be repeated tomorrow.

Author:  ixa [ Wed Sep 18, 2019 9:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Day 1 vote

I once again upvote no lynching and if we have a roleblocker -> roleblocking brunnerj seems very correct.

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